Rainesty
Aug 27 2006, 02:26 PM
I hate to admit this, but I, for one, had hoped for her redemption and voted for her back into the house. Of course, that was along with Kaysar, Janelle, Howie and James. I never thought in a million years Dani would be so dumb to team up with Will & Boogie in an assinine Legion. It serves her right and don't think she can hold a candle to Jedi Janie. I truly believe JJ is playin' with Will's mind and it's so working.
Shannon
Aug 27 2006, 02:59 PM
QUOTE(cujokay @ Aug 27 2006, 12:44 PM) [snapback]26103[/snapback]
I agree that Danielle is gone... at Erika's hand. When Danielle was talking to Boogie yesterday she intimated that she would be willing to go after and vote out Erika, which allowed Boogie some wiggle room when talking to her. Danielle is overplaying her hand and she's been doing it all season. She is determined to be the "evil" Danielle of S3 and it's going to cost her the game AGAIN.
Players like Danielle and James should know more than any of the others, the importance of getting Will out the house! They both acknowledged Will's cunning and deceit but neither made a real effort to get him out of the house. Too bad, so sad.
QUOTE(Rainesty @ Aug 27 2006, 02:26 PM) [snapback]26153[/snapback]
I hate to admit this, but I, for one, had hoped for her redemption and voted for her back into the house. Of course, that was along with Kaysar, Janelle, Howie and James. I never thought in a million years Dani would be so dumb to team up with Will & Boogie in an assinine Legion. It serves her right and don't think she can hold a candle to Jedi Janie. I truly believe JJ is playin' with Will's mind and it's so working.
Exactly what they said, except I never voted for her to be an all star.
Keith
Aug 27 2006, 05:31 PM
At the very beginning, S6 was taking out the floaters, of which Dani was one. When she finally won HoH (the first non-S6 to do so), would it really have been smarter to take out Will or Boogie? I don't think so. Dani was smart to take out one of the four S6'ers and have a temporary alliance with CT. Dani's problem didn't really ever rest with Dani. It rested with S6 gunning for floaters, and the rest of the house being chickenshits. Dani did everything she possibly could do. She could not have played this game any better than she did. With the rest of the idiots playing this game, it was predestined that this is as far as Dani could have gone. Dani's not at fault for her premature demise. It's S6 for not getting rid of Chilltown. And, it's the floaters for never standing up to S6.
Idiots, all of them. Dani, I know you're going this week. But, you and Will are the only two who actually played this game. Will had the benefit of a partner and Dani didn't. She was destined to fail because the rest of the house is a group of morons. So, Dani may be going home this week, but in my opinion, she and Will or the only real winners in this house.
merlynn
Aug 27 2006, 05:43 PM
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Dani did everything she possibly could do. She could not have played this game any better than she did.
Ok, you know I like Dani, but I disagree with this. Dani should have never agreed to LoD. It should have been a side alliance with James and that's it.
She should have pushed James to put Mike up in week 3. At that point in the game, she might have been the influence needed to sway him away from S6's Jase nomination.
Also, Dani should have tried for HoH earlier than she did. I believe that "Define and Dismiss" game was specifically designed to produce a non-S6 HoH. I knew every single question. Dani never once rang in. She could have stuck her neck out then and there and changed the course of the game. There were several people in that house that were content to let S6 dominate early on and it contributed ultimately to the CT dominance we are seeing now.
Dani played a good game, but it wasn't perfect. You dance with CT, you should expect to get burned by them.
Sardonic
Aug 28 2006, 12:58 AM
See, I'm a bit sad Danielle's leaving, because it would detract from my dream final two of Danielle and Janelle. (Will as an alternate would work well, although I really don't know if I want him to win again.) Danielle's problem, right now, is that CT needs to be taken out, and Janelle and Erika just plain aren't going to do it until everyone else is gone... sort of a Chilltown Double Date version of how Drew won two seasons ago. Chicken George is, at this point, the only one who might go after CT.
I think Danielle is a smart player who has made a lot of changes to her game this season, changes for the better, and in some ways, I think she's played a bit riskier game this time. I am pleasantly surprised she's made it this long, because I had resigned myself to Will, Danielle, and Janelle all being early exits. I agree, I would never have put trust in Will or Boogie for a long term alliance (because, as you may have noticed, Danielle's the only married woman in the house and therefore of less interest to them...) but that's splitting hairs. Once they turned on James, it was only a matter of time before she was a goner.
Shannon
Aug 28 2006, 03:57 AM
The drunken, ranting & raving...the real Danielle, is really showing her ass tonight. Now that's Doog TV! I'm sure this screaming and attacking would work too, if Will wasn't holding Erika's hand. It will be interesting to see if Erika can hold up and really put Dani up and out. I can't wait to see Dani leave, and I hope she's still hopping mad as hell and takes it out on the rest in sequester, watching this meltdown (over a TV reality game show no less) is hilarious!
Cami
Aug 28 2006, 08:01 AM
It just dawned on me why Dani was acting that way yesterday with Erika-- basically making it impossible for her not to put her up. She thinks she's going to stay, with CT's votes, and is setting Erika up to be her new Janelle-- demonizing her to justify the betrayal she already had in place with her perceived CT alliance.
She kept saying, to George and Janelle on the SoFA, after her freakout-- "If I stay . . . no offense George . . ." -- followed by some vengeance she was going to wreak on Erika.
Of course, she was going to have to turn on Erika next week, anyway, in order to stay tight with CT. I think from her perspective, all Erika did was hand her a ready-made justification.
merlynn
Aug 28 2006, 08:37 AM
I don't think Dani is stupid enough to think CT will keep her. I think she's pissed off and is having a meltdown. Personally, I love it. With the betrayals Will has been pulling off recently (and considering he had deals with everyone, he had to start betraying people) a meltdown like this was due.
And they still have three more days with Dani in the house! Hee. I hope she spills every last detail of LoD to Janie before she goes. I also hope she points out the obvious to Erika that Will is with Janie and that she plants the idea in Mike's head that Will wants Janie in the final two instead of him. I mean the girl could do a lot of damage in the next three days if she keeps up this level of outrage.
Finally, I hope she makes it perfectly clear to Erika that she will work over the entire sequester house to make sure Erika doesn't get any votes. I hate Erika's total lack of backbone. I love seeing her so uncomfortable having to be the "bad guy". It's beautiful.
tooletta
Aug 28 2006, 08:48 AM
QUOTE(Cami @ Aug 28 2006, 09:01 AM) [snapback]26445[/snapback]
It just dawned on me why Dani was acting that way yesterday with Erika-- basically making it impossible for her not to put her up. She thinks she's going to stay, with CT's votes, and is setting Erika up to be her new Janelle-- demonizing her to justify the betrayal she already had in place with her perceived CT alliance...
This crossed my mind, too,
Cami. Could explain why everyone was so floored by how drunk she was(acting) after only one glass of wine.
Or, she could just be a crazy bitch with a secret stash.
cujokay
Aug 28 2006, 12:32 PM
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Dani did everything she possibly could do. She could not have played this game any better than she did.
I don't agree with this statement either. Danielle asked Erika to give her that HOH. She should have let Erika take, thus staying in the background. The whole purpose in requesting Erika give her the HOH was to shake things up. After being nominated the first week, Danielle was pretty much off the radar. She should have stayed that way. Getting rid of Kaysar, after trying to get rid of Janelle, only called attention to herself. It was after that that Janelle started going after her, IMO.
uaintjak
Aug 28 2006, 01:06 PM
But I don't think the following weeks would have played out any differently. Danielle hasn't (isn't) going home as a result of winning that HoH, so it's hard to say that that moment negatively affected her gameplay.
merlynn
Aug 28 2006, 01:24 PM
The only thing I think that could have helped Dani is if she encouranged James to put Mike up instead of Jase in week 3. At that point, I don't think LoD was formed. They could have broke CT that week (grant it, Will still would have played a great game, but he wouldn't have the power he does at this point in the game with Mike by his side - two people become strong in the end).
If she had done that, then Will probably still would have gone to Janie, but Dani might have been able to form an alliance with Jase and James (much like Kaysar suspected she wanted to) and things might have played out differently for her. Not to mention Erika might not have delluded herself into thinking she's part of CT if Mike was out of the house.
She still might not have made it to the final 2, but her chances would have been better if she had thrown her chips in with someone other than CT.
OldWiseOne
Aug 28 2006, 03:29 PM
I'm so tired of hearing Dani talk about 1) how Erika was supposed to be her Jason (but didnt' she say the same thing about James?) and, 2) how Jason never would have done this to her. Time to realise that Jason is NOT in the house and let it go. And has she conveniently forgotten that she is the one who scumbagged Jason by making a deal with Lisa during the F3 endurance comp? Can't wait for her sactimonious ass to go.
gforce
Aug 28 2006, 06:05 PM
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The only thing I think that could have helped Dani is if she encouranged James to put Mike up instead of Jase in week 3. At that point, I don't think LoD was formed.
Ironically, it would appear that the doom brought about by said legion was Dani's. I wasn't sure at the time what her reasoning was for aligning with people she said she wanted out of the house, and now it seems to make even less sense. I can't see that she got one thing out of that alliance, and would up doing most of the "heavy lifting" herself. The graveyard veto competition should have told her everything she needed to know right there, but she didn't really act on it by jumping alliances. And.. the LoD dragged her right down to her demise.
ManeAndTail
Aug 28 2006, 09:21 PM
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I hope she spills every last detail of LoD to Janie before she goes.
I dont think it would matter. Other than setting things right in Janie's mind about getting rid of James. Will could easily tell her he was pretending to be in the LOD, and look how he is kicking them all out now for proof that Janie and Boog are his real true alliance.
If blame is to be laid at feet over the eviction of Jase and not going after CT that week.. It should be laid squarely at James' feet. It was his HOH, and his blown oportunity. Dani's game stank because she relied on bullying everyone into doing things to benefit her and her alone..in a game where everyone knew her game. Dani's problem is she believes her own hype. She's been told mucho times that she played a great game in her season, and that she would have/should/have won if not for her DRs.. Now for some reason she seems to believe that she is the greatest player ever, and therefore, those in the house should bow down to her and carry her ass to the finals.
buffyvol
Aug 29 2006, 07:49 AM
Dani's drunken "It hurts. It hurts. It hurts" to Erika was hard to watch, as in "Yeah Dani. We get it. You're hurt", but I did like the ringing of the doorbell. I'd like to think that I'd have just camped out there for the night, Erika would have had to come out sometime, then just ask her, "Oh, did I wake you?"
uaintjak
Aug 29 2006, 12:44 PM
So Danielle's crying. Again.
I can't help but wonder if it's because she's missing her family, has no chance to win, and she's out the door on Thursday...OR...if it's that she can't believe things didn't work out the way SHE planned.
Cami
Aug 29 2006, 01:43 PM
She can't believe everybody isn't just going to let her win. I mean, what's up with that?
BimboKay
Aug 29 2006, 06:09 PM
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She's been told mucho times that she played a great game in her season, and that she would have/should/have won if not for her DRs..
Suppose that's why she's SO sincere (not) and SO weepy (fake) and SO complimentary (sucking up) in many of her DR's and Adios messages this season?
Cami
Aug 29 2006, 08:01 PM
Here's a link to a search I did on youtube that includes clips of Danielle's meltdown, including her doorbell bing:
The Best of Danielle on YouTube
cujokay
Aug 30 2006, 09:07 AM
QUOTE(uaintjak @ Aug 28 2006, 02:06 PM) [snapback]26530[/snapback]
But I don't think the following weeks would have played out any differently. Danielle hasn't (isn't) going home as a result of winning that HoH, so it's hard to say that that moment negatively affected her gameplay.
You may be right. My point was that after being nominated the first week, her name did not come up again as a nominee until after the "Black WIDOW" won the HOH and started hollering like a damned fool AFTER getting mad at Howie for doing the same thing. Great way NOT to call attention to yourself, IMO.
I just think that Danielle could not WAIT to mix it up (as witnessed from week ONE), and jumped the gun. Hey, just my opinion.
ca_girl
Aug 30 2006, 11:56 AM
QUOTE(cujokay @ Aug 30 2006, 07:07 AM) [snapback]27291[/snapback]
My point was that after being nominated the first week, her name did not come up again as a nominee until after the "Black WIDOW" won the HOH and started hollering like a damned fool AFTER getting mad at Howie for doing the same thing. Great way NOT to call attention to yourself, IMO.
I just saw the video of that again. With her hair like it was, she reminded me of the guy that was all over the Internet last year (after Katrina) for looting the Heineken's. Anyone else remember it, or see the resemblance?
Captain Savem
Aug 30 2006, 02:55 PM
Danielle really disappointed me this week. I thought she was a better player than this. Once Erika told her that she was "considering" putting her up she just quit. A good player *cough*Will*cough woulda taken her to task on her reasoning:
"I can't beat you in final two"
Dani should have called bullshit and went over the votes with her right then:
Marcellas ~ Erika
Howie ~ Danielle
James ~ Danielle
George ~ Erika
Will ~ Erika
Booger ~ Erika
Janelle ~ Doesn't matter who
Now these may not be actual, but it doesn't matter. What matters is that it's plausible, and I would sell it like gospel. For Erika to believe she couldn't beat Danielle in a final two, she would have to believe that neither Will or Booger would vote for her, her so called alliance. Which should then bring her to...
Erika is the low woman on the totem pole.....the odd woman out if you will. Danielle shoulda stressed the importance of taking people to the F3 who give you the best chance at F2, which is not ChillTown. And this is the time to start taking out people you can't beat in F2 *cough*Will*cough*. And at this point she shoulda suggested an Erika/Dani/Janey alliance. That each of them would have an equal chance at F2: Danielle would take Janey....Janey would take Erika....Erika would take Danielle. So she should put Will up, vote him out. Then whoever wins HoH puts up Booger and someone has to go against him as a pond. Booger goes home, then the Kitchen Man. And now it's just the final three ladies.
Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, but a good player would've at least tried some critical analysis *cough*Will*cough*. But no, instead she presented no coherent argument but went all emotional and crazy and pretty much killed any chance she had of surviving the week.
go6462
Aug 30 2006, 03:03 PM
Aye Aye Captain! good analysis, of the actual game, pretty much none of them know what is what really and to just give up and go nuts shows that Danielle needed to stop drinking and start thinking. Will coddled Erika that night and pretty much that is what Erika needed, had Danielle been savvy and not all drunken and stupored she would have came to same conclusion as you.
cujokay
Aug 31 2006, 10:21 AM
QUOTE(ca_girl @ Aug 30 2006, 12:56 PM) [snapback]27328[/snapback]
QUOTE(cujokay @ Aug 30 2006, 07:07 AM) [snapback]27291[/snapback]
My point was that after being nominated the first week, her name did not come up again as a nominee until after the "Black WIDOW" won the HOH and started hollering like a damned fool AFTER getting mad at Howie for doing the same thing. Great way NOT to call attention to yourself, IMO.
I just saw the video of that again. With her hair like it was, she reminded me of the guy that was all over the Internet last year (after Katrina) for looting the Heineken's. Anyone else remember it, or see the resemblance?
I saw him, I remember him and you're right!
Keith
Aug 31 2006, 08:31 PM
Bye Dani! I'll miss you!
Once again, Dani proves she knows it's a game, she played it to the best of her ability, she's voting for the best player. She's loyal and keeps her word. Erika was a fool to betray her. Head held high, and class act. And, as Will said, the best BB player to never win.
/salute
Alise
Aug 31 2006, 08:32 PM
QUOTE(Keith @ Aug 31 2006, 06:31 PM) [snapback]27927[/snapback]
Bye Dani! I'll miss you!
Once again, Dani proves she knows it's a game, she played it to the best of her ability, she's voting for the best player. She's loyal and keeps her word. Erika was a fool to betray her. Head held high, and class act. And, as Will said, the best BB player to never win.
/salute
Gosh I miss her already, and there is absolutely no one in that house I want to win. Dani, you didn't need redemption, you rocked!
Beehoppy
Aug 31 2006, 08:57 PM
RIP Dani. I had your back.
ManeAndTail
Aug 31 2006, 09:54 PM
Buh Bye DaniBitch.. cause I did not have your back. But I might drink the rest of your wine.
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I thought she was a better player than this. Once Erika told her that she was "considering" putting her up she just quit.
Dani spent too much of her time this week basking in the fact that everyone thought she was so good they needed to get rid of her before final 2. It was in her head that no one thought they could beat her..aka Dani thinks she is da best playa eva..and resigned herself to her greatness. To tell anyone different.. might ruin their notion that she was da baddest playa eva..
Therefore her legend would fall into an abyss of fame-hos to come before her..
She couldnt have that.
Brag over yourself much to Julie you drunk dumb know-it-all bitch!
Keith
Aug 31 2006, 10:36 PM
QUOTE(ManeAndTail @ Aug 31 2006, 10:54 PM) [snapback]27989[/snapback]
Buh Bye DaniBitch.. cause I did not have your back. But I might drink the rest of your wine.
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I thought she was a better player than this. Once Erika told her that she was "considering" putting her up she just quit.
Dani spent too much of her time this week basking in the fact that everyone thought she was so good they needed to get rid of her before final 2. It was in her head that no one thought they could beat her..aka Dani thinks she is da best playa eva..and resigned herself to her greatness. To tell anyone different.. might ruin their notion that she was da baddest playa eva..
Therefore her legend would fall into an abyss of fame-hos to come before her..
She couldnt have that.
Brag over yourself much to Julie you drunk dumb know-it-all bitch!
Just out of curiosity, how should she have acted? Maybe say how she sucks and nobody likes her and cry allatime about the unfairness of it all. I dunno, somehow I think there'd be people hating her for that, too.
demgirl
Aug 31 2006, 10:44 PM
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Just out of curiosity, how should she have acted?
I think how
Captain Savem said it was best. Dani had her total meltdown this week and then she just sort of ... deflated. Sort of like Booger in bed with Erika or one of Will's plastic balls from the BY. She found out Erika was nomming her, she took it well, she had a total meltdown and then she resigned herself to the fact that she was just too good to make it to the F2.
I had my Dani issues and I didn't really want to deal with her on the feeds anymore, but if she had ran the numbers with Erika, if she had galvanized herself and the girls into doing something about CT, if she had brought them together to hash it out w/o the boys, well what a feat that would have been. She, like many of the other players this season, has bought into her own hype far too much, and ultimately, I think that's why she left this week. Just my opinion.
bttrcup
Sep 1 2006, 02:47 AM
Was Danielle really expecting to go tonight? I ask only because of the way she was dressed - she was really dressed down.
I do get that the upcoming POV competition sort of required sweats and tennis shoes, but usually Danielle got all dolled up for the live shows, and tonight it looked like she wasn't even wearing makeup. To me that feels like she either thought she was safe - or she was seriously upset about the whole thing. I just don't get it.
Keith
Sep 1 2006, 06:22 AM
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I think how Captain Savem said it was best. Dani had her total meltdown this week and then she just sort of ... deflated. Sort of like Booger in bed with Erika or one of Will's plastic balls from the BY. She found out Erika was nomming her, she took it well, she had a total meltdown and then she resigned herself to the fact that she was just too good to make it to the F2.
I had my Dani issues and I didn't really want to deal with her on the feeds anymore, but if she had ran the numbers with Erika, if she had galvanized herself and the girls into doing something about CT, if she had brought them together to hash it out w/o the boys, well what a feat that would have been. She, like many of the other players this season, has bought into her own hype far too much, and ultimately, I think that's why she left this week. Just my opinion.
Yeah, ideally it would have rocked if she had done that a lot sooner. I just kind of think, despite all the credit I give Dani, she knew she didn't have a chance against the showmances once Erika gave her the news that she'd be going up. If Erika wasn't going to change her mind after the "it hurts" speech, she simply wasn't going to. Dani, like Janelle, has been fighting an uphill battle this whole game. That's gotta take its toll on someone. She definitely could have done more and possibly stayed in the game, but I can't fault her for being completely drained at this point.
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Was Danielle really expecting to go tonight? I ask only because of the way she was dressed - she was really dressed down.
I do get that the upcoming POV competition sort of required sweats and tennis shoes, but usually Danielle got all dolled up for the live shows, and tonight it looked like she wasn't even wearing makeup. To me that feels like she either thought she was safe - or she was seriously upset about the whole thing. I just don't get it.
I think she knew it. I think she acted like she thought she was staying. I'm not sure for what purpose except that in its own small way it was strategy to try to keep her cool. But, not only was she dressed down for leaving, but she was also dressed down for the PoV ceremony. I think at this point she was just in her defeatist mode.
Haunted Rain
Sep 1 2006, 06:25 AM
Dani was a mess this week. She made a total fool of herself.
She was absolutely scary that night she was trying to get Ericka to open the door to HOH. Banging on the door, ringing the bell over and over. When she said, "Come on Ericka, open the door," I was seriously creeped out. That was one scary bitch.
The drinking, the crying, the smoking behind the couch, the fighting with Ericka, the desperate convo with Dr. Daywalker... just goes to show that Dani, who acts like she has it all together, does not.
Alise
Sep 1 2006, 09:36 AM
QUOTE(Haunted Rain @ Sep 1 2006, 04:25 AM) [snapback]28139[/snapback]
Dani was a mess this week. She made a total fool of herself.
She was absolutely scary that night she was trying to get Ericka to open the door to HOH. Banging on the door, ringing the bell over and over. When she said, "Come on Ericka, open the door," I was seriously creeped out. That was one scary bitch.
The drinking, the crying, the smoking behind the couch, the fighting with Ericka, the desperate convo with Dr. Daywalker... just goes to show that Dani, who acts like she has it all together, does not.
I'm sorry, Haunted Rain, I don't see it like that at all. No bones about it, Dani is my all-time favourite player, bar none. I think we forget the stress that's on these folks and how the smallest things get blown out of proportion. I know that if I had felt my 'best friend' had stabbed me in the back as Erika did to Dani, I would have gone nutso too. Dani used what she had to without the benefit of having some of the releases we have in the outside world. I can't be too hard on any of the hammies when they freak out because of their situation.
YMMV.
Haunted Rain
Sep 1 2006, 11:36 AM
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I'm sorry, Haunted Rain, I don't see it like that at all. No bones about it, Dani is my all-time favourite player, bar none. I think we forget the stress that's on these folks and how the smallest things get blown out of proportion. I know that if I had felt my 'best friend' had stabbed me in the back as Erika did to Dani, I would have gone nutso too. Dani used what she had to without the benefit of having some of the releases we have in the outside world. I can't be too hard on any of the hammies when they freak out because of their situation.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. In my humble opinion, there's no excuse for that kind of behavior. Scaring the other players so badly that they had to hide in a bathroom because you're acting like a crazy stalker?
Some hammies manage to make it through all the betrayal and backstabbing without getting drunk and acting like trash, so it obviously can be done. I think it has more to do with the kind of person one is than what is going on around them. A rational, stable person can control their reactions to outside stimuli.
Maybe if Dani had spent more time working out, like she apparently does in the real world, and less time drinking, she wouldn't have turned into such a fracking whackjob.
I also think this past week just goes to show that Dani is not as good of a player as she, and most of her competitors, think she is. A really good player does not go off the deep end and stay there because their plans go awry. A really good player does not get so emotional or take things so personally.
Cami
Sep 1 2006, 05:43 PM
Ultimately, Danielle revealed herself as a ridiculous and horrible woman. I'm so glad she's gone.
KatJam
Sep 13 2006, 08:29 AM
Hey, did everyone know that Danielle ALMOST WON BB3?
Because she only mentioned it, what, 35 times on last night's show?
OK, Dani, we get it. You are the most awesome BB player, EVAH.
*cough*
swsa
Sep 13 2006, 08:34 AM
I've never had the Dani hate, but she annoyed the crap out of me last night. Playing all elder stateswoman, and "let me tell you the proper way to choose a winner, being that I only lost because my jury sucked," and "I'm not used to doing this, you know, because I almost won my season, have I mentioned that before?" and then still hanging on to the Janelle issues with her blatant rooting for George to win AC. So annoying. She just has this snitty superior vibe to her that I find so offputting even when I'm trying to like her.
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