It's soooooo unfairrrrrrrr that I have to start anotherrrrrrrrrrrrr thrrrrrrrrrrread.

Last night's episode sealed my Daniele hatred. She's just as bad as her father.

As much as I wish she would at least spend it on a tiny condo, I doubt she would. Given the cost of real estate in her immediate area, I think that she'll either waste in other areas or use it as a down payment on some real estate that will be foreclosed on in six months to a year.

I don't think that it would cost very much to defend against that lawsuit. They have no formal agreement to share the money and it's apparently contrary to their contracts with BB.

Well even Kendra from Girls Next Door (who does not seem terribly bright) has bought investment property--which is totally not a condo she will move into about 8 seconds after the show gets cancelled--so I would think Daniele might actually do something smart like buy a small house with some of her money. She's not particularly stupid, just whiny and obnoxious. Whether she has the foresight to buy something she can afford in the long term is anyone's guess.

If I remember correctly from her LiveJournal, our little Dani has expensive taste. I seem to recall pics of LV bags and high end cameras that she was coveting. My guess is if she does win, she goes on one hell of a shopping binge....including bigger boobs. I don't think she has a practical bone in her tiny little skeleton.

If she gets bigger boobs she be so top heavy that she be like a Weeble. It would be difficult to carry a bigger cup size on that stick frame of hers.

I can't say that I wouldn't go on a spending spree if I won a ton of money. I just be shopping at WalMart so I could get more stuff.

Oh don't get me wrong, give me half a mil and watch the retail damage I do!!! But then again, I'm not homeless like Dani, nor do I live in Diane's car! (cuz Diane and her car just never gets old!)

I did not think it was possible for my hatred of Danispwan to grow anymore, but she has found new ways for it to multiply exponentially. The bitchiness and attitude that emulate from her are unlike anything I have ever seen. I had to stop watching the feeds a few minutes ago with her and Zach on the couches, it was that awkward. Why is he even trying to talk to her, it's self-inflicted torture.

In all seriousness, I am kind of dreading this veto ceremony. D and D have no shame, I think it's gonna be awful.

I don't see Daniele as frivolous with the money at all. I think she's a very conservative person and by no means stupid. My guess is that Dick would blow through it a lot faster than Daniele would.

I'm going to assume I'm the lone remaining Dani fan left. That's okay. I'm really okay with that.

She still played her ass off in this game. Isn't nearly as hateful as her father. Seriously, the worst I've heard is that she's whiny and she wears a bitchface. And she treats her father poorly. Well, I can be whiny and I do have a pretty spectacular bitchface (in fact, I wore it at work all day today--it was very effective in repelling idiotic questions from people who should get new jobs because they don't understand the one they have). And since we still don't know exactly why they were estranged, I just can't make myself believe that she doesn't have a reason to get all defensive and irritated when he's in her face all the time.

And come on, her comment on the show last night was pretty funny. Zach totally is that friend that you see pop up on caller ID and don't answer the phone and wait for the voicemail to see what he wanted. Who doesn't have that friend? I have several of those. They even know who they are.

If she wins, then it's her money to do with as she pleases....none of the Hamsters have said they're going to give the money to charity or start a foundation etc.. So if she wants expensive bags, plastic surgery, a 50K car I guess that's up to her. But I tend to agree with Elli...I think she is more financially conservative then we might think.
Hopefully she'll go back to school...at one point in the house she said she would like to.
I think if the whole thing with Nick works out, then maybe that will ground her a bit...he seems responsible and level headed in regards to school and career.
Will she share the money with her Dad? It would be easier for him to share with her, and not violate their BB contract, because he could give it as a legal "gift to a child" I think (at least the IRS would have no grievance with it)
Could be Zach walking awa with the money too....in that case prepare for chess playing, surfer clothing to hit the market! <wink>

ETA: PVRunner....you are not alone!

Aww, I'm glad I'm not alone. *fist bumps to SBTZmom*

She's joked about buying Nick a monkey with her winnings, but in reality she's already said she wants to go back to school with the money. I believe she will. She said she really enjoyed school but had to drop out because she couldn't afford it anymore. She wanted to switch her major from photography to education. From the sounds of things she's said, she was very financially responsible. She paid all of the bills for both she and Kris. From the sounds of it, it was decided long ago that at the end of their lease, he'd move back in with his parents and she'd find a new roommate so she did know all along that she'd be homeless at the end of the show.

She also mentioned that they have no furniture in their apartment except for a rickety IKEA couch and a table because paying the bills was more important. She, like every 21-year-old girl I know likes bags and shoes (the expensive ones). And her dog wasn't cheap. But she's smart enough to cut corners elsewhere to afford those things. One thing that I think gets glossed over with her is that she is a pretty smart kid. But she is still a kid.

I also think that if she says she'll share the money with her dad, she'll do it. I don't agree with them sharing the winnings, but if that's how they choose to do it, what do I care?

Anyway, according to various interviews with Nick, he's moving to LA when the show is over and I wouldn't doubt that those two will end up living together. I agree that he'll be a very good influence on her. He's a level-headed all-around nice guy.

Edit: I have to say, this season is a first for me. I picked Dani as a favorite from week 1 and for the first time in the history of this silly show, my favorite has a real shot at the grand prize at the end. I think the key is to make sure to never put it in print. Because BB finds out and finds a way to crush my dreams.

Well, I wouldn't call myself a Dani fan, per se. But, I do like her better than I like Dick. I think my dislike of Dani is about the same as my level of dislike of some of the other hamsters who were annoying, but not heinous. Dick of course, falls in the heinous category, as does Boogie, for example. Amber and Dani would more like fall in the really annoying category.

Dani, is also to me, one of those people who, under "normal" circumstances in the BB house, I wouldn't mind if she won. She'd fall into the category of people who I wouldn't necessarily like, but I would begrudgingly say, "ok, she played the game well, she does deserve the money in that respect." So, I wouldn't normally be pissed off if Dani won, even though she wouldn't have been my first choice.

However, considering the fact that she's related to Dick, I really don't want her to win...not because she's related to Dick, but because a win for Dani means a win for Dick. Even if Dick sees none of the money (though I honestly think he would see some of it...maybe not a lot, but still will). But, even if Dick sees no money, he will feel a sense of satisfaction that Dani won. I want Dick to feel no satisfaction whatsoever. So, that's why I don't want Dani to win, even though I do admit she played well and would deserve the money for that.

I... honestly, I kind of like Daniele. She's spoiled and princessy, true, and when she gets into her whiny irritating "this suuuucks I haaaaate this it's not faaaaair" mood when the chips are down, I have to mute her, but she's a good athlete, and she's also a heck of a lot smarter than anyone's giving her credit for. She's definitely the best strategist of this season. I would have no problem with her winning. I think her dad's a jackass, but I don't necessarily hold that against her. Besides, after the last two appalling winners, Daniele doesn't seem so bad, now, does she?

Yes, she does seem just as bad. Not worse, but no better. The problem with her whiny mood is it's not only when the chips are down. She is almost guaranteed a win at this point and she is still bitching and moaning about how boring everything is and she can't touch the walls.

She is smart, but she's a royal pain in the ass.

What can I say, these last two seasons with Booger and Maggie have severely lowered my standards for what constitutes a winner that I don't despise. At this point, Drew would seem like a breath of fresh air, and all he did was sit there and look pretty and let Cowboy and Diane fight over who got to lose to him.

Dani goes from being one of the most annoying HG's ever to one of the most detestable ever, depending on my mood. It's true that she is another typical, whiny snotty little "20 year old."

However, she enables her dad. If she had any sense of decency, she could see that her father is desparately trying to get in her good graces and use it to ask him to tone it down. However, I have seen her, on many occasions, root on her father and even suggest that he carry his fuckwad antics even further. Even when she was "friends" with Zach, it was obvious to me that she really couldn't stand him, and only allowed herself to interact with him because he was on their side. The minute he had the temerity to try and win the game, she treats him like a piece of shit. These qualities are a hell of a lot more despicable than just being a typical, snotty, little 20 year old bitch. It shows a rather shocking lack of any kind of character ... even for someone as young as Dani

Lastly a lot of my disdain towards her is completely unfounded. She is guilty by association by being the daughter of an asshole of a father, I also hold a certain amount of contempt because I believe that CBS has unfairly assisted DICK! and her during the playing of this game.

I'm a Dani fan, too. Of course she's a pain in the ass. Very few Hammies that get this far aren't. And she's perfectly capable of being snarky too....well, she'd have a lot of company on these boards, wouldn't she? What I like about her is the ability to analyze, decide and execute a plan. Most of the Hammies, especially the young females, can't or won't. She didn't suceed when she put Eric up but it was the right move. When she had the chance again, later, she didn't hesitate about Jess and Eric. A little brutal but it was the right move then. This isn't a game that lends itself to good play by nice people. At the least you have to be a nice person capable of being a cut throat. Frankly, my other fav, Janie should have been more cut throat and less prone to taking advice from others.

Dani plays hard at the comps, hates to lose, exults in winning. She thinks and most of her suspicions have been spot on. And she whines (a lot). Nobody's perfect.

I guess it's because I teach middle school. A little whine goes a long way.

If I was locked up in the house with the three other remaining guests, I think I'd be bitching too (and I'm generally a fairly upbeat person). I'd be losing my gourd.

I tend to judge people a lot on their relationships with other people. Daniele seems to categorize people into two categories: A) Those people who she can use to get things she wants or B) Useless people. In my opinion, she's a user. She doesn't seem to care about anyone or anything but herself.

The whining is just annoying, it's the way she treats people that makes me dislike her.

She's got two facial expressions: smirk and pout.

She is a great game player. And I won't haaaattee a Dani win just because I will believe she earned it (with an assist).
As a person? I think whatever childhood agonies she suffered have left her completely closed off to human emotion.

Sure they all pick on each other in varying degrees and I'm sure I would be bitchy in that house too, but I have yet to see her genuinely bond with anyone there or show a moment of human empathy.

Even with Nick, she communicated to him solely through "You're a brat," "Shut up!," and "I hate you."

Last night it seemed as though she wanted to talk to her Dad about Nick but all she could muster up was a fond "He's such an idiot."

Even Jen, who freely admitted she wasn't good at "the whole feeling bad thing" when it was pointed out to her that she had upset Amber went and made an attempt at an apology.

So while I can understand the root of it to a degree, I find it really unattractive.

ff spoke for me on this one.

and let's not forget she's the only person in the history of BB who had two people fighting to keep her in the game. Never has another houseguest been on the block, won the veto and used it on the other nomination.

That's only because nobody else ever had their parent in the game. It's not a big deal. Any parent (well, maybe not Amber) would do the same in a heartbeat for their kid. Especially one who is so desperately sucking up as Dick is.
The two of them make me ill.

exactly which is why they never should have entered the house as an "ememy pair"

I don't really hold it against Dani (or Cock!) that they entered as a pair. I don't feel like they had an unfair advantage over everyone. I don't even really care that it became the Cock! and Dani show.

What I hate is that the rest of the house was so fucking stupid as to keep these two together.

Oh sure, I hate Cock! and despise Dani. I'm going to throw up no matter which of these two assholes wins. But for allowing them to win, I blame the rest of the house (mostly Jessica and Zach and America).

Since there is no uaintjack forum, I will say it loud and proud, like a drunken frat boy at a kegger night: I love you man.

Yeah, hate her. Yeah, she should probably win.

I agree with you. Actually, as weasely as he is, the only one I don't blame is Eric. And, that's only because he had no choice, and I really do believe that he would have gotten Dick out the time Dick and Dustin were the nominees. I keep having this daydream where we go back in time and it works out differently!

However, everyone else I do blame. I first and foremost blame the producers for the edit Dick has gotten. A close second, I blame America for voting the way they did--something I will never understand.

And, last but not least I blame everyone else in the house for not getting rid of them. Every last one of them made mistakes. Zach should have gotten rid of Daniele last week when he had the chance. I even blame Jen for succumbing to Eric's AP task to vote out Dustin. They are all to blame, every last one of them. They're all idiots for not trying to get rid of them, and sheep for going along with Eric's persuasions. That's the one and only reason that if, I mean when, Daniele and Dick win, I will have to truthfully say the rest of them brought it on themselves and deserve to lose. It doesn't make me happy and I'd be more than willing to forgive their stupidity to see things turn out differently. But, it's true that it's their own damn fault.

And, to keep this more on topic, I hope Dani catches pneumonia.

How about we keep this thread COMPLETELY on topic?! Which is Daniele.

Hahaha! Spawn is miserable, shivering "soooo coooold". Karma Electra: I bow to your powers.

She should have listened to Dick when he tried to be all daddy and tell her to put on a sweater or something. But she had to put on her bitchypants instead and they aren't waterproof.

I actually really haaaaaaate being coooold. It suuuuuuucks. So I feel sorry for Daniele right now. I still want her to lose, but I feel sorry for her.

I am loving this, I will watch ST again tonight, I have not watched it the last couple of weeks.

Perhaps, I am just overly paranoid because of the racist talk in the Zach thread, but am I reading too much into this comment?

It rubbed me the wrong way. I'm sure if those words came out of Zach's mouth they would have been construed as racist but since it was Princess......

I just thought they meant that Jam had helped previously evicted hammies pack, and I think she even said something about liking to pack. I don't like the Donatos, but I think they're in the clear on this one.

She even said she likes packing when she offered, or begged to pack Erics stuff. I don't even get how this could be considered racism. Is there a stereotype that I am unaware of?

The stereotype would be something like "menial jobs are better done by black people", or "black people like to do 'those jobs'" or something worse.

Probably, I just haaate the Ds so much that I'm reading too much into it.

Same here. It was within the context of her incessant whining about having to pack her own crap and how her handlers packed for her, etc. It just came off to me like packing was beneath her but ok for Jameka kind of thing.

That fucking scream could wake the dead. Make it stop. Please.

I haven't been that close to breaking my TV since I was a teenager. That squeal of glee that was repeated throughout the night on the show tonight jus made me want to put things through the screen. Like my head. So I couldn't hear the echos of that scream after death.

Daniele, you have problems. Everythings good? You're smug, self-righteous, infallible, and snark-bitch happy. The split-second something goes wrong you go into the type of depression normally reserved for suicide plotters. You need help. And not the kind of help Daddy's new payday can fix. At least, not in one sitting.

You got dealt a bad hand in life, but you've done everything in your power to dwell with that bad hand and not change your cards. Good luck to you after the announcement of Dick as the winner. You'll need it.

Forgive me if this has been mentioned I haven't read the entire thread. I remember in the live feeds Dani complaining about her period being a week late. This was second week of August. She has since complained off an on about cramping and says she will proabably start during a comp. Never says that she did. Then someone mentioned she was bloated and now tonight this:



Now try to overlook how gross it is that I remembered all this and think. What if Jen put a tiny whole in every condom in that house? Who is the best player now biatch?

ETA: Credit goes to pvrunner for the quote.

Did Danielle's mother not sign a waiver? I don't recall any mention of her.

People have been down on Dick for dumping Dani and Vincent on his mother to raise, where is their mother and maternal grandparents? Dick may not be the perfect role model as a parent, but it seems that he genually loves his kids.

To me, it's been obvious that the only people who signed waivers for the Donatos were Vincent and Daniele's (ex) boyfriend. No other family has been highlighted (unless I missed it)....although some of Dick's club friends were highlighted, but we know CBS paid for that bash, so it was staged.

2 people alone on an island....their own version of Survivor!

I don't think that any of the houseguests had any more that one or two people on their island. We didn't see Zacks family at all...if there really is a family.

I don't think Dani is much different from most house guests and not having many people sign the waiver for the show.
The waiver situation is kind of sticky.... Since they are not allowed to tell people they have been chosen for the show and most house guests wouldn't asks for waivers in advance it probably is just the person who is with you when you get notified or who is going to take care of stuff while you are gone. Personally, if my adult kids were going to be on Big Brother - I wouldn't sign a release - and I'ld change my home phone number while they were gone - Thankfully, neither of my kiddos are famewhores, though we would all love to do the Amazing Race. With BB we just like to watch and make mock of the house guests and of course read the boards.

Out of all the house guest,except maybe Amber, Dani is going to have the most problem with her feedback after the show. Dani likes playing the poor widdle me card. She wants everyone to think it is all Dick in the many fights they have had on the show. She is going to be shocked to see how many people think she is a spoiled rotten self absorbed person. Even Dick haters see how much he tries with his spawn. Something Dani has none of is respect. Even in her LJ you can tell she treated her Grandma about like she does Dick.

Maybe after seeing herself on the show she will realize how she talks to people. Vince said Dani will probably not go on message boards once she sees that she is not well liked. I remember one day around the last HOH comp she was pissy that the DR was trying to make her say things she did not feel. Could it have been that she was proud of daddy, or god forbid thankful to him?

I just can't figure this girl out. I was starting to warm to her more, until I saw the clips of her telling Dick she wanted to get out and see people she cares about. To purposely hurt her parent is kinda brutal. If she does hook up with St. Nick maybe he can help her and Dick's relationship. He seems to like Dick so maybe he can talk to her. I can almost bet that once Nick disagrees with her she will not talk to him for years. Her brother seems to confirm that Dani will cut you out of her life if she doesn't get her way. He said she asked him to borrow something , he said no, she didn't talk to him for eight months.

My thought is she will blame Dick for people not liking her. Especially when she sees how liked he is. "it's sooooooo uuunfaaaair" "yoooouuu dooon't unnnndeeertaaand" She is not going to be a happy princess when she gets out. Even with the 500 grand. Dick will be happy to see Dani win. Can you imagine if he does win over her. Meltown of Amber proportions.

I agree with Gunshyne. Dani is going to be one unhappy girl no matter who wins. She won't be able to handle that everyone doesn't love her and that she's been blated on blogs all over the net. I've heard lots of mention of her being a typical 20 year old immature girl. I just don't buy it. I think she's a step above that. I was a self centered 20 year old but never anything like Dani. She blames people for everything bad that happens to her and that's a life long trait, and a horrible one at that. Dani attempted to put all the blame on Dick for his abusive behaviour but was right there encouraging him to continue.

After watching her these last few days and her behaviour towards Dick I have to wonder who is the problem in that family. I hate Dick but he's trying. Dani is the rude one now, and if she didn't talk to Vincent for 8 months because he told her no well again she's the problem.

What I'm most interested in, because I'm obsessive about BB, is does she have a boyfriend? I'm guessing no so she's got no home to go to. What's she going to do once her and Nick don't work out, because there isn't a doubt in my mind that that relationship isn't going to last.?

Chrysana I think her and her BF are done. He has taken her pics off myspace. He even removed the one of the two of them off her avi. I learned the hard way that family is all you got. Even if they are not the one's you would hand pic. Nick will either help Dani realize she is a spoiled brat or he will pucker up like Dick and become a groveling peasant worshiping at the feet of his beloved. If he doest keep his lips froze to her ass he will suffer the same fate as Vince & Dick.....banishment from her world.

I do understand Dani being upset that the jury thinks she flew under the radar. She did anything but fly under the radar. On the other hand I'm glad that they called her out on hiding behind Dick's behavior. If they saw her telling him to attack Zack that may have been what pissed them off. I hope Dick realizes,once he is outside of the house, that he did everything possible to reconcile with Dani. All the man has done is kiss her ass the whole time. I don't think he would have been as explosive if Dani wasn't there. Even teagate happened because Jen was attacking Ice Princess. Not saying he wouldn't have been an ass, just not as much of one.