As you were!

Snooky said today in the live feed recap thread (Post #230):

> (Yup, America, that fickle beast, voted for Eric to nominate Dustin.
> I think America is somewhat unbalanced, if not insane, but at least it's not Jen!).

Over on the CBS forum there are some jerks bragging about how they flooded the AP with votes for Dustin. Looks like it worked. It's well-known that you can vote more than 10 times online, I just didn't know anyone would care enough to exploit it.

I rarely vote at all, and when I do it's only once - but I think it's cool someone decided to shake things up in this way. Making Eric target the person who was instrumental in saving him from eviction last night is just brilliant!

Well, in a way that is similar to sending the banners to try to out him. He is still supposed to be "America's Player" so there's not much logic to trying to make yourself a target.

I love Dick and Dani assigning houseguests to characters but I only caught a couple. Dustin as the Queen (of course) and Jen as the Mean Flower ..... my picks are

Amber is the Hooka Smokin Caterpillar
Eric is the King (I loved that he was like 2 feet tall in the animated version)
Dick is the Mad Hatter
Dani is the Doormouse
Zach is the Cheshire Cat

anyone else??

Jen is the Cheshire Cat... just grinnin thru adversity...

Have Dick and Daniele done anything other than cry, whine, complain, sleep and mope in the last 24 hours?

(That's a real question. I'm wondering if they've had any positive moments at all.)

Well, there was that whole calling Jameka a c*nt and requesting that she lick his balls. I'm sure Dick felt very positive about that bit of communication. It's always nice to see someone use the Jerry Springer 2 CD set of "How to Make Friends While Cooking Saint Nick Memorial Tacos"

In Dicks defense, if she called my mom a bitch, I would have done a lot worse than call her that. Dick and Dani ahave actually had some pretty good conversation for the last 3 hours that I have seen.

Haha!


Figures -- While I stopped watching, for a bit.

I do wish Jameka wouldn't have done that (and she does, too, from what I have seen and heard).

I'm really conflicted about what I see and hear with these folks sometimes. I keep thinking that no matter how stressful things got for me that I would never ever be capable of the hate-filled, spiteful language that is an everyday part of their conversation. But then I remember that in order to even become a housemate, you must already think pretty highly of yourself to want to be on the show and therefore be predisposed to that sort of behavior. Let's face it - they're all a bunch of hosers and fame-whores.

Was it just last night (or the night before) that Danielle was saying "I'm a very private perrrrsooooonnnnn!"? You must be joking. A truly private person would be appalled at the idea of living in a fishbowl.

Well, if you're a fan of America's hamster, keep in mind that asking Eric to try to get Dustin nominated actually provides him with some useful information while not really putting Eric in any jeopardy.
Eric can make a lame, half-assed push to get DustButt on the mac - no problem.

But, now Eric can also assume that we have sent him a message that DustButt is a threat to him, which he is. I'm sure Eric is already aware that DustButt is a threat to him, but our "message" to Eric may prompt him to delve deeper into the DustButt sitch and take his presence more seriously. DustButt is really Eric's biggest competition now.

On the rest of the hammies - sweet chicken! This is seriously the most detestable group of people ever assembled for entertainment purposes. Words fail to describe this group. It's a farce of criminally insane proportions or something like that. Sometimes it really is like Alice in Wonderland except with characters from Natural Born Killers or something.

I think there has been some debate about whether the LNC is really the new nerd herd. I think yes and no. What I think is that you have nerd herders on both sides. You've got some really despicable people in the Donato camp and you've got some really despicable people in the Lame Night Crew.

ETA: about what Roxy said about Dani. When I heard Dani saying she was a private person, all I could think about was her dumb live journal where she posted that letter she wrote to Chriiiis.
By the way, Chriiis, Dani is too young and too much demon for you. You're better off without her, Dude. Find a nice human girl and forget about the Donato Spawn.

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that neither Dick nor Dani is leaving this week. Of course, this all comes down to the veto and someone (anyone) using it on either of the two. Eric already floated out there to put up Dustin to keep Jen and Zach on their side (little does he know), but then Dustin was receptive to it and agreed it would be best for Jess not to make any more enemies. Seems like Jess was on board with it as well.

If that plays out and Dani or Dick are removed, Dustin is put up and Dustin is toast. Jen, Zach and whichever of the Donatos is voting obviously take Dustin out. America will, in all likelihood, have Eric vote Dustin out over either Dani or Dick. I'm basing that theory on the fact that America already wanted him nominated over everyone else.

Dani and Dick stay this week. The LNC implodes. Dani and Dick shoot themselves in the foot somewhere down the line (again). And Jess, Jen and Zach are our final 3.

Or maybe that's just wishful thinking because I hate those three the least. In this group, that's really not saying much.

But weren't they all the LNC before this whole Nick thing happened? I thought it was Dustin, Jessica, Eric, Jameka, Amber, Danielle and Dick up in that room discussing who to put up in place of Jen. Just because Dick and Danielle don't want to be the new Nerd Herd doesn't make it so.

If Dustin does end up on the mac as a "pond," I think that Eric would not vote him out. He doesn't necessarily have to follow what America votes for him to do.

If he were to vote out Dustin, he would immediately be fingered by Jess, Jameka and Amber as the culprit, and he would be an outcast. He wouldn't be able to switch to DICK! et al, because they surely wouldn't trust him after selling out his ex-alliance.

I think that, in this case, it would be smarter for Eric to give up completing one task for the safety of being with 4 alliance mates.

It would be smart gameplay, but alas, it appears the one task Eric is required to do is vote the way we say.
We control his vote 100%.

Clearly Dick's morning madness is an attempt to make sure Dani is safe this week if neither of them get off the block. I would LOVE for them to keep him and vote Daniele out. I can't imagine the powers that be would let him go on like this endlessly, they would have no footage for the shows other than one long beeeeeeeep interspersed with the reactions of the rest of the house.

I have to give huge props to Dustin, Amber and even Jameka this morning during the Attack of the DICKhead!, part 8.

Obviously, Jameka learned her lesson and refused to engage like she did last time.

Amber and Dustin did an excellent job of ignoring him.

Eric was a little wuss and took off.

Zach is a toadie, and seemed to take his side.

Dani is a little bitch. She could have put an end to it and didn't.

I am not a violent person. I have hit exactly one person in my life, and I was 10 at the time. Right now, I would be in the DR and giving them two options. Throw him out of the house, or I will go out there and kick his ass. Your choice. You lose one player now, or you will lose two ... one of them on a stretcher.

Agree, Minxy.
Dani doesn't want to put a stop to it.

Seriously, this is the most screwed up thing... Dickus throwing himself on a sword to keep his daughter in the game could be considered admirable. Dickus running all the other hammies through on a sword to keep his daughter in the game is teh fucked up.
The Donatos suck.

Stamp the hell out of that!

Hmmm...I'd like to see them turn the tables, wait till Dick finally goes to sleep and then have the 5 go on the Dickoffensive. Or just evict his pwecious daughter and keep his ass in the house.

I can only hope that the Five have the will to get Dani out. Dick is in control, unless they do.

From the live recaps:



Oh come on, now. That just pisses me off. It's fine what DICK! does as long as it's directed at Jen or Kail. In fact, you participated in it, ya little twerp. Now since it's directed at your allies, it's not okay? Puh-leeze.

Now that Eric has made the jury, he can be voted out any time as far as I'm concerned.

I could be wrong, but I interpreted this as Eric pointing out which side Zach was on.

(Eric has also apologized to Jen & Kail for being a part of Dick's rants of the past and for not doing anything to stop him.)

Admirable? I wouldn't go that far. In fact, I wouldn't even let him get away with any of this shit. Nope, not one iota. I'd be right in his face, yelling back. He would automatically lose it and hit me. I'm seriously serious. A person can only handle so much and if he came that close to MY face? I'm not a coward, tho, either. YOU cannot allow a bull-headed spineless prick get away with what he's slinging, not even once, or he WILL continue. Obviously.

Did he also apologize for goading Dick into keeping it up so Kail or Jen would dor and they could have a triple eviction week?

Heh -- I would assume that was included. He apologized more than once and appeared to be sincere.

I would have been in Dick's face from the beginning and laughing my butt off at him to his face. He's nothing but hot air and something to watch on TV, in real life, he'd have had his azz handed to him by now. I hope Dani goes, please let it be Dani! And then I want to watch as Dick really goes off then deflates on his way out. Dick was fun while he lasted but he's gotten boring as a one-note blowhard. Only problem once the Doritos are gone, we are left with really really boring hammies.

If the Hammies have the opportunity to vote Dani out this week, they're insane if they don't jump on it. Not just to make DICK! crazy, but because she's proven herself capable of winning comps.

Besides, it would be fun to have Dani be the first one in sequester, so she can be allll alooooone for a week.

I agree, Shannon. hahaha - wouldn't it be kewell if like it was Evel vs. amERICa in the end? Like totally, fer sure. *sorry, I had an episode*

It would make more sense keeping him, till the end? wouldn't it?

Seriously, taking Dick to the end with you just might get you the money. But most of these hammies don't get the game at all, dumbasses.

The LNC has officially become the Nerd Herd. Up until today, there was still some hope for them but now they are locking themselves in the HOH and watching Dicks every move and ALL of their conversations revolve around Dick and Dani.

It's official --- NERD HERD the sequel

I think you misunderstood what I was saying, Rainesty.
I don't think that what Dickus is doing is admirable in any way.
If he were to sacrifice himself without dragging other people in to it, that could, possibly, be considered admirable.

I can't say that I blame them for staying up in HOH right now. The way Dick has behaved all morning, that's where I'd be.

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I'd be right there with you...and them.

If Dick's on a rampage and the silent/ignore him treatment doesn't work, I'd remove myself from his path. Either that or I'd be a Jen. Nothing makes someone yelling at you madder than you smiling at them and being nice.

I'd say that the HOH group is sick and tired of DICK!'s rantings. He has been in their faces for 3 hours, and it must be getting a little tiresome by now. Dustin, Amber and Jameka did stay downstairs for the first hour of DICK!'s rantings and had had enough. Every time they do venture out, he starts spewing his vile crap over and over again.

As for the bashing of DICK!, what are they supposed to do? Talk about knitting and what a swell guy he is? As I wrote in an earlier post, the bashing of DICK! is nothing more than banding together in order to give each other strength and lighten the mood a little.

They signed up to play a backstabbing, scheming, and sometimes nasty game. They did not sign up for someone to invade their personal space and make physical threats and spew verbal abuse.

I know that if I were in the house, I would be there too; not because I was scared of him, but because I would be afraid that I would take a swing at him.

It's interesting who DICK! decides to go after: The women and people smaller than him. I remember that when he went at Nick, Nick stood up to him and DICK! backed off like the yellow, cowardly dog that he is. He also never went at Mike.

He is a bully. He goes after who he perceives as weak. It's not in the least bit charming and he is not even remotely entertaining.

I agree. And that's a very good point about Dick's choice of targets. Strategy to keep his daughter in the house or just natural jerkishness, it's gone way too far. I anticipate BB's warning to him today will not be the last. What would he resort to if they pull a shocker on him and kick Danielle out this week?

If Daniele doesn't win veto we'll soon find out. Jessica stated multiple times that the plan is to evict Daniele, even moreso now in light of Dick's madness.

Oh Haunted Rain - No, No, No. I wasn't saying you thought it admirable, or anyone else for that matter. I have been all over the board and seeing a lot of people voiceing their opinions about he's protecting his young, how it can or could be misconstrued as admireable, etc. I just used your word. I wasn't the pointing the finger at anyone in particular. It probably seemed that way, tho.


I have to say, I think the nerd herd sux, personally. They "HAVE the !*#& numbers" - tag team his ass or shut up. Face the evel dicksnot. Grab a spine. Don't take that crap from him. Besides, they have Jamesus who relies on good. USE the Gangsta love. *which I totally find insulting and kissing the Lord? Praying the way she does? IMHO. Gimme a break! I'm all for showing the love to our creator, but being all sexual with him crosses o'so many lines. For me.

But, how do you do that? Jameka tried, and it turned into a nasty, ugly shouting match. If you engage the guy by stooping to his level, he is just going to sit there and yell louder and more vilely (?). For the first hour of DICK!'s rant today, Jameka, Eric and Amber just stood there and allowed DICK! to get six inches away from their faces while he endlessly spewed his crap.

Ignoring him doesn't work. Standing up to him and yelling at him doesn't work. What is there left to do?

Right now, the HOH is the safest place.

Oh, I understand. Thanks!

I also agree that the rest of the hammies should not hide out in the HOH. Don't let Dickus control everything!

Exactly what Jen did, smile and agree, that worked. He ended up apologizing - how good was that? Stand there, take it, smile, say a couple snide remarks right back, smirk a little. Taunt him. Play his game. It is a game. That's all I'm saying. I would never lock myself away in fear. Fear is nothing more than False Evidence Appearing Real. There is nothing to be afraid of. He's harmless. Stix and stones, ya know?

Oh and yea, one more thing. JMO, again. But, keeping him would really get his dander up.

*glad to clear that up Haunted Rain*

Rainestay, I agree that Jen handled it remarkably well. However, back then, it seemed a little different. I didn't like it when he did it then, but I may be able to allow that some of it was "gameplay." Also, he would go at her for 10 or so minutes and leave her alone for a day or two.

It seems that today is a little different. He seems to be more threatening and vicious. The first part of his rantings lasted an hour during which some of the HG's just tried to ignore him (like Jen used to) even though he got right in their faces. They would hide out in the HOH, come back outside and he would immediately start in on them again.

Oh now I see, I have a little bit of a different perspective. *I'm not saying I hate all angles of the spew* And, I haven't actually "seen" it. I'm only reading it. This is where I'm coming from. I have been on the receiving end of it. I was a bullyingee (sp?) Short-little-scrawny-last one called in sports. Picked on -basically. Feeling like I always had to prove myself "worthy". The only time it stopped is when I fired right back. I always had a comeback. Like Hey, "Dicksnot - wipe your mouth, your spits getting me ill. Talk about STD's? The newve - STAMP!

After a while, they'd get sick on their own vile bile, realize it's totally useless, leaving them powerless. I would NEVER allow anyone to talk to me in the way they allowed him to speak. Never! I had to laugh at the Christ-like Jamesus giving out an yo' ma joke. Sometimes, ya just have to bring out the bitch in ya, I guess. He sure didn't like that now did he?

Did anyone see, a few nights ago, when Zach was talking to Dick and Daniele about Eminem in "8 Mile?" D&D were too busy ridiculing Zach about thinking they would ever see such a movie to really get his message (and, honestly, I'm not sure where he was going with telling this to those two) but his point was all about how effective it was for Eminem's "character" to start rapping about his own flaws to throw off the other rapper guy.

How funny would it be if Dustin, Jameka, Amber and Eric used this as a defense? They could yell things at each other or yell things about themselves to each other in front of Dick. I don't think it would shut him up but I think it would throw him off.

I'm absolutely disgusted with the goings-on in the house. Primarily from Dick, but from the others as well. I don't see anyone coming out of the house untarnished by this vile, hateful and hurtful atmostphere that permeates the BB house.

I have no problem with 'nerd herd' mentality and people turning on one another, parranoying about everone, etc., heck, that's the fun that is the BB house! But it's this vile hate from Dick that is just so distasteful. I'm sure that when everyone goes home, they'll be so appalled by their own behaviour in the house. let alone Dick's.

Dick adds nothing to the game. I look at the other hammies and all I see are a collection of scared, angry, traumatized targets who are willing to throw each other under the bus to avoid the Wrath of Dick

I think that by the BB house condoning Dicks' behaviour, he has set the bar so low that everyone is reacting to his garbage by appealing to him at his own level. Yes, I understand that he wants to get himself evicted so that Dani is safe -- I suppose an attempt at showing parental concern or whatever. But there has to be a line that, as a human being, you simply don't cross and, for Dick, (and by extension the other HG's as well) it's so low it's almost nonexistent.

Remember when we were shocked by Howie's treatment of Yapril? How, even though she was mean and nasty, she didn't deserve the mean things coming out of Howie's mouth. Well, OMG look what we have here with Dick and his garbage - I don't know how BB can, in good conscience, let this continue.

I would absolutely LOVE to have Dani be evicted this week. I figure at this point Dick would be so incensed that he would end up resorting to some violence (hopefully only in the 'pushing and shoving' kind, IYKWIM) and getting booted outta there.

Just my 2 cents....

Moved from the America's Hamster Votes & Discussion thread - gforce

I watched the Jen rants back then and thought they were puerile, disgusting and mean-spirited, but Dick's rants this morning really freaked me out. It helps to actually see it--I know my recaps didn't come anywhere close to capturing the sheer horror of listening to this guy. He seriously sounded like someone who should be put in a straightjacket, hauled away, and put in a rubber room so he wouldn't hurt himself. He was manic, twitching around, hitting furniture, banging pots, swearing a mile a minute, chanting over and over--really bizarre and scary behavior. Nothing like the back and forth that Jen engaged in with him out by the hot tub. Even when he was alone, he continued blathering to himself, to the cameras, pacing back and forth. Freaky stuff.

I know I wouldn't trust that BB producers could get to me in time if he actually struck out--say with one of those pots he was banging. He got thisclose in people's faces--when Jameka brushed his arm, because he wouldn't budge from his position at the counter--he got nasty over the fact she "touched" him.

You can't fight back with a guy like that--there is no technique that will work because he's descended into irrational behavior. I don't blame them a bit for going to the HOH and locking the door.

They're not acting like the nerd herd. They're being sensible human beings.

He's over the top now, because he has absolutely no power and no friends, and nothing to lose. Not even Zach and Jen were tolerating him today.

The longer the Trivia goes on, the more I wonder if we're missing something good, that involves him getting kicked out. POV wasn't shaping up to be a pleasant, sportsmanlike event.

I was just wondering the same thing, Cami, especially if the comp did involve the giant weapon-like croquet mallets. Not that I've seen anyone get physically violent in the house yet, but I can't say I would be totally surprised if someone freaked out.

I love long POV/HOH blackouts. We recappers get so paranoid as to what potentially is happening in the house.

My fantasy?? They come back to the feeds, blood and hammy fur is all over the place. And there is Jessica, pom poms in her hands, cackling maniacally over DICK's prostrate body.

Snooky I feel exactly the same way about it. It was disturbing. I think the more they didn't react or engage with him, the worse he got. Retreating to the safety of the HOH was the smartest thing they could have done in the situation. If they had stayed down there and Dick continued, someone would have lashed out physically at him and I really can't say that I would blame them.