Why is analysis spelled with an s and analyze is spelled with a z?


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MrsG's question is a rhetorical one, I believe. No need to post an answer unless your answer includes some HOUSE discussion or analysis. All posts otherwise will continue to be deleted. ~tooletta

First time posting here. I've gone from liking Dick to being repulsed by his presence. Jen has faults but I don't think anyone deserves the vile verbal abuse that Dick dishes out. I was shocked at how Nick was joining in too.

I don't understand why all the women in the house just stand by silently and do nothing. Well, at least Jameka did voice her concerns right to ED's face about his anger/tea dumping on Jen. I think the women remain silent because Dick scares and intimidates them. They know that if they get on his case about anything that he will start in on them.

Amazing how Jen stood her ground and didn't shrink away when Dick kept antagonizing her when they were sitting by the ht (Jess was out there too). I noticed that Dick was a bit taken back when they were discussing their dr sessions and how Jen said she talks about how she likes everybody INCLUDING Dick. He didn't have a comeback for that one.

It bugs me that CBS puts a whole different spin on things. It bugs me that this bully will just bully his way to the top.

~moved from the Jen thread. Welcome to HT! ~ tooletta

Chiming in on the inanity of everyone booting Nick for no real reason. The thing I don't understand is that as best as I can tell the whole "backdoor Nick" plan seems to have sprung from Eric.

Dick and Dani want Jen out, most of the others want Zach or Kail. I remember when Eric first started putting Nick's name out there I thought it must have been "our" idea, but we told him to get Jen nominated. So why would he be pushing Nick so much?

He was also the first to make sure everyone was committed to the plan and "no backing out" which seems odd as we haven't told him how to vote yet.

And now he's possibly aligning with Jen when he thinks America hates her?

I think we're going to see Eric and America diverging in the near future, and I wonder how that will shake out.

Also-everyone else has managed to convince themselves Nick needs to go based on his complicty in MustardGate and The Second Vote. Two things Eric knows for sure he did not do!

hey BeeHoppy Does Eric have to do the task? I think I heard he has a choice but CBS has kinda changed things since the start, well at least the wording of things so I am not sure anymore. I wonder if he will use what we tell him as info but like you said, start doing what he wants...G*D forbid.

After watching the iced-tea incident on You Tube, I wondered how America (which keeps wanting Jen nominated) is reacting. Turns out a ton of people posting at cbs.com are incensed by Dick's assaulting of Jen with the iced tea and his constant threats and verbal abuse. Some are calling CBS & Grodner's office to complain. I'm thinking Jen may not be the target Eric's given to get nominated this coming week--hope not, anyway.

Kail left the room yesterday afternoon when Dick went on one of his many tirades against Jen. Later she felt awful about having run out, worried that it set a bad example for her daughters that she didn't stand up and support another woman being abused. I'm sure she was worried she'd become his target if she attempted to intervene--it's not heroic, but there's certainly precedent when it comes to Dick. Dick can't be off my screen soon enough to suit me.

I would love for Jen to win HOH and nominate Dick and Dustin, with Princess Dani as the replacement nominee. She can tell Dustin she didn't want to make any "new enemies" in the house. It would serve the Queen right.

ETA: Thanks for the link, Aurora. I sent an e-mail their way, mostly about how posivitely (and erroneously) Dickwad has been portrayed on the prime time show.

I'm not sure anymore gunshyne. I thought when they announced it originally he could choose to do the tasks, but at least with voting it seems he HAS to vote the way we tell him. Maybe he can opt out of the other two.

I don't know why he wouldn't do the get Jen nominated task though-it's an easy win.

It seems like if he wanted to align with Jen but had to get her nominated, he would campaign to have Kail or zach be the other nominee so he could try and keep her.

I just don't see how anyone benefits from Nick going at this point.

It seems to me that the REAL threat was taken off the block yesterday!

Hamsters am DUM.

Today, on HouseCalls we had Bunky and Holly. Yes, Holly. And her little dog, too.

A couple people called in to complain about Dick. Said CBS is condoning violence toward women and that sort of thing.

A couple people called in to talk about Amber's love of her dogchild and how weird that whole thing was.

Especially people like Dick and Dani, both of whom could have had him as an ally. Which isn't to say I'm not sorry he's leaving, because I find it pretty funny that they're willingly booting someone they're friends with to continue taking part in the "group think."

I think Eric saw Nick as a strong person who is closer to Dick and Dani than Nick would ever be to Eric, so Eric saw it as a way to eliminate a strength while it was still possible to get the rest of the house to go along with it. He has a relationship with Jen and doesn't see Zach or Kail as strong threats, so Nick is the natural target of those not in the Kewl Kids Klub. Any detractors would have to break ranks, and they're too chicken to do so at this point.

Yeah, I watched that. I'm sorry, but that was one of the most inane bits of programming I've ever seen from Housecalls. Where's Gretchen, anyway? It was very obvious that neither Bunky nor Holly saw the most recent blowouts on the feeds. They spoke as if they hadn't anyway. Holly's big theory is that Dick has a crush on Jen, and they acted like everything was just "gentle ribbing." They acted like they had no idea what they were talking about, they didn't even know Dick poured tea on her.

It was a very unsatisfying half hour.

Eric's taking a very long view. He wants to win this game. Nick's a strong physical threat and a good social player. It's very smart for him to exploit the current paranoia of the house to get rid of the strongest member of the perceived ex-Mrs Robinson alliance.

I agree, Cami. I also agreed with this, from the LF thread:

If you really want to hit them where they live, you could express your feelings to CBS advertisers as well.

I think Dick's popularity in CBS polls played a direct roll in the response to this incident and the actions in the house have started to happen to fast for CBS or the producers to react to the situation. Dick's poll numbers will begin to change radically if they show a reasonable portion of his behavior.

As far as the house goes - I'm just disappointed that Nick jumped in with Dick and started yelling aggresively at Jen, too. I'm disappointed that neither Ambore, who watched, or Dustin, who had to have heard what Dick was saying, didn't step up to Dick. I'm disappointed that Jessica just shrugged it off and stayed uninvolved when Dick resumed his attack on Jen outside. I'm disappointed that Jameka, the one who claims to be the most God fearing and rightous in the house, didn't step up and stop Dick. Although I guess in her case she has to wait and get a message from the BB ping pong balls to know what to do. I'm disappointed in all of them for being cowardly and not stepping up to stop Dick's attack.

These people are grown adults and if they are afraid of standing up to what's wrong because they might get yelled at - then the person who should have won got kicked out last week.

If it wasn't for Eric and Jessica this show would have nothing fun or redeeming about it. CBS and Grodner ought to be thanking their lucky stars that they got Eric and Jessica in this house. Everytime they show Dick, I cringe. Everytime I see Eric and Jessica, I know they are about to do something fun.

I understand this completely, especially in the case of Danielle. If you know that you are living with a bully, the *last* thing you want to do is attract that bully's attention. Let the abuse flow to someone else and survive another day. Yes, it's selfish and cowardly, but it's also self-preservation.

Danielle probably learned that early in life. Once learned, it's an incredibly hard habit to break.

In as much as I loathe what Dickus is doing, I think Jen eggs it on. She has a choice to walk away, avoid Dickus and Princess, but she doesn't. Jen's so-called morality yesterday and launching into Princes was something guaranteed to stir Dickus up, because, despite his faults, he has shown time and time again that Princess is his one big soft spot. She's not stupid. Self-involved yes. But not stupid. She could have avoided the whole thing, but didn't. IMO, she knows that it gets her more attention, so she's going to needle him as much as she possibly can as often as she possibly can.

I think it's a really, really good thing that Jen and Dick aren't in the house with Kaysar and Janelle. I think they would have kicked Dickus and Jen's butts on a daily basis (and twice on Saturday).

Yeah Janie would have gotten Buxom on their arses.

***I might get in trouble for saying this but we need to not become like Dickhead himself and keep re-hashing the rehashed hash.****

Here's my theory on why Eric is pushing so hard for Nick to go. I think he has to know, based on last week's choice for him to evict Kail over Mike that perhaps America is going to choose Kail again. In theory, if he can manage to flip the house to save Nick, he can use that as an 'in' with Nick and keep any impending targets off his back.

That or he realizes he can't push this mystery vote off on Nick this week so he's covering his ass by making it almost impossible for anyone to think he was the mystery vote on the wrong side. He'll deflect all blame to Dani, Dick or Amber.

I'm also pretty sure he figures if he aligns with Jen, that's one less week he has to worry about anyone coming at him. They'll go for her in a heartbeat.

Because these hamsters.....the elevator hasn't quite left the basement for most, if not all of them.

I am sort of amused that it seems that Dick is picking up on the fact that the banners are coming at this particular time in the game and it might mean that Nick shouldn't go. Especially when, in the grand scheme of things, Nick wasn't coming after any of them until it got down to 8 people remaining. And even then his gameplay didn't appear to be aggressive in regard to winning HOH. He really seemed pretty content to sit back and let everyone else fight it out.

Which, in the end, is why Jessica will probably end up winning this whole deal. She knows pretty much everything that's going on, is involved in none of the drama, and is seen as non-threatening by everyone. Nobody is gunning for her. She doesn't even come up in potential pawn discussion.

What kind of crying fit are we going to see out of Amber when she realizes that not everyone loves her enough to throw themselves on their sword to save her in the house? When she realizes that, in fact, no one will? Is it possible to have one's tear ducts over-produce so much so that their entire head implodes? Because I might pay to see that.

If Eric has to vote out Kail this week, how is he going to explain that to the house? If Dick, Dani & Zach vote for Nick to stay, they just need one more vote, maybe Jessica, and it won't come to a tie breaker situation, 'cause including Eric's vote for Nick, that would be 5-3? Does Eric think about these things?

I think your right about Eric on all counts. They talked about cultivating some friendship with Jen yesterday to make sure to keep her focused on nominating Dani and Dick. He might think that Kail will be America's Choice to vote out so he's cultivating an alliance with Jen to get her to swing a vote in favor of keeping Nick and if he does end up having to vote to save Nick he can pawn the vote off by having Jen go with the house again leaving him with cover - although Jen will figure that one out in the end.

The other thing you may be thinking about here if your Eric is that the numbers are getting to a place where you could pull a switch on who is and isn't the house target at this time. Pull in Jen and Kail and go after Dani and Dick. If I was in the house I'd be thinking about that pretty hard at this point. I'd rather get rid of Dani and Dick the next two weeks than Jen or Kail. Dump Dick and Dani and everyone will agree to target those two and/or Zach. Two free weeks further along for everyone, as long as they win HOH. I'd do that for a Dollar

I have never sent a comment to CBS, in all the time I have been watching, recapping, and "loving BB" (Orwell).

I did today. Dick's behavior is abusive and unacceptable. It is unacceptable becuase abuse is unacceptable and should not be publicly validated by silence on the producers' parts. All the hamsers are in vulnerable positions. It is the producers' responsiblity to keep the environment safe.

Here's a key reason Dick's behavior should be stopped, separate form moral/ethical grounds:

His abuse is fucking up the game. It violates the rules and creates an uneven playing field.

I'm glad to see the LNC breaking up, and to see that 5 are moving in the right direction. More must be done for the game to really be on. Who could possibly actually play inthis envorinment?

Zgiest is right.... ( sorry forgot to use quote funciton)

"Whenver I see Dick, I cringe. When I see Eric and jessica, I know they are about to do something fun"

OK, new topic........Is there anyway to know for sure if these are actually banner plane situations or if it's just House Guest fantasy talk/false reasoning. Do we have L.A. recappers who could actually be in a position to see a banner plane?

Also, has anyone used Google's satellite maps to check out and see if the BB house is visible?

When I was watching the other night there was a lot of small plane noise and Nick and Dick were trying to figure out what was going on. Whether it was a banner plane or not is unknown. The Big Brother house does show up on Google Earth, but it doesn't really look like anything recognizable (pool, etc.)

Aldav has a link to a picture.

Jen's self-absorption might also make her think that she'll be making "good TV" by keeping DICK yelling at her. More publicity!!! (even thought none of it has hit the TV screen... yet.)

I still don't get the crazy vibe from Zach. He seems like a nice enough guy. Certainly not a great storyteller. (How in the world did that S&M-con subject come up?)

I still wish that BB would do more things to the Hamsters. Wake them up, freak them out.

On last night's show, it looked like Jameka was reading a book at the dinner table. And for some reason, to me, it did not look like The Bible. Is there another book in there?

They have a BB rule book, too.

I didn't know where else to put this so I figured it could go here. Anyway, do they always do live voting so early in the game? I thought they only did it randomly and once or twice at the most at that.

And as much as I try and read all the feeds to keep up, I still can't see clear alliances. These dumb hammies are making me dumber.

I think they do the live voting quite a bit toward the end. As far as alliances, there really aren't any to speak of, except for maybe a couple of pairs. But even those are more personal things and not strategic. Yeah, boring hammies.

I am surprised that some of the more BB-studied hamsters haven't caught on to this yet or questioned it. Maybe they think it's just a new twist...maybe the three brain cells they all share are busy focusing on breathing for them all...or working WAHmber's tear ducts.

What are some of you guys theories on how the house is going to go the next few weeks? Mainly the LNC after D&D are gone.

I just hope Jen is there for Americas Choice cause I believe Ambore will have an Ivette like breakdown if Jen gets it and she doesn't (hell who would Ambore want to talk to her daughter or her dog??)

Your question inspired me to check out the popularity poll on CBS. Dick is in the lead, with Jen right behind. Interesting! The only hamsters still in the house that are rated lower than Amber are Zach and Kail.

Bring on America's Choice!

I think Dani would win a phone call in a poll, to talk to her boyfriend.

I'd do that for a dollar but only as long as we get to listen to the phone call so we can make fun of what Daniele says to try and justify her situation with Nick.

Damn right. I really feel for the poor guy. I wonder if he'd even call. He might want to say whatever he has to say to her at this point privately.

This is crazy the only reason CBS is allowing Dick to do whatever he wants is lets face it because it is makes nothing more but for good TV. I love Dick and can nto wait to see what kind of drama he starts tonight and tomorrow.

Oh ya anyone know what Nick did to get Dick back for what he done to his bed?

If she did they will show us the good stuff during the show, I can't wait if I was her boyfriend I would have done had a bomb fire with her stuff.


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Kail was talking about taking a voluntary exit earlier, after Waamber went off on her. I wonder if she'll stand up during the live show and ask everyone to vote her out?

I was thinking the exact same thing Cami

What a gift that would be for AmErica if she did, assuming America voted for her to go.

Yeah, I'm getting a little worried. I'm not a huge fan of Kail. I couldn't ever root for her because of the whole lack of awareness when it comes to the "gay lifestyle." But, I hate bullies more. Kail's faults, to me, stem from a place of ignorance. Whereas, Nick and Dick, I hate them because they are bullies, and the things that I hate about them come from a place, on their part, of cruelty. I have never seen cruelty from Kail, but I've seen it in droves from Dick and Nick. I'd rather hang around someone who is just ignorant, than someone who is cruel.

And, because of that, I keep hoping beyond hope that Nick gets voted out tonight, and Kail does not leave. I can barely stand it right now because the number of bullies, even the passive aggressive bullies, is way too high. I hate the thought of Jen being there by herself while the house gangs up on her, or simply stands by passively while bullies like Dick and Nick berate her and cuss her out.

My hope for tonight is that the plan stays as is, and Nick gets voted out. And, then I'd be ecstatic if Kail or Jen won HoH and got Dick the hell out of there.

I feel that way too, but I'm also really worried about the possibility of Kail staying and Dick winning another HOH (or Dani, which would amount to about the same thing) and seeing both Jen and Kail have to endure another week of bullying and terrorism. Also, the longer Kail stays, the greater the possibility that she would have to be in sequester with Dick, and I shudder to think what he would be like with no cameras and unlimited access to alcohol.

I'm one the many who has completely flipped from seeing Jen and Kail go from my two least favorite to the two most sympathetic. I'm not sure I would say I LIKE Kail -- she's the kind of uptight, religious, homophobic Republican that I would never get along with in real life -- but I also think she's basically a normal, decent person without any of the narcissistic/sociopathic tendencies that the rest of them have.

I think Jen has some genuinely redeeming personality traits. She's warm, she's cheerful, she isn't mean or conniving, she's has an endearing quirkiness, she obviously has a lot of inner strength, and I think she's even capable of empathy. I think she actually feels bad for other people sometimes.

Almost as bad as Dick winning HOH would be Waaamber.She would be absolutely insufferable. The water works wouldn't stop for a week.

If I was Eric, Dustin, Ambore, Jammhhhmmm, or Jessica I'd say screw that. Kail your staying!. If they don't get to go through with their plan to get rid of Nick then the game dynamic will change dramatically against those people. Dick, Dani, Nick, and Zach will be a new alliance and four strong. Kail can walk out tomorrow if she wants but I wouldn't vote her out no matter what she said. It shoots their whole plan to hell.

Of course, they can't control a voluntary exit but I think the way the BB contracts with the participants work is no pay for a voluntary exit. On top of that, coming at the middle of the afternoon on a Live Eviction night, the producers are going to push Kail hard to stick it out, otherwise it's gonna make it extremely hard to put together tonight's show. Even the parting messages to Kail all are messed up and probably not viewable. Dustin did his with eyes crossed and others did screwy messages, too. CBS can't show those.

There's no telling why we've been blue goo for so long know. I've seen it that way before because hammies and Skippy were doing dry runs of the HOH contest to make sure everyone knew what to do and that the production work was right. I've seen it because you can't keep the houseguests from singing or talking about DR stuff while they are getting ready for the show. But usually it comes on at some point in the late afternoon so we can watch some of the hammie primping and dressing activities and it still isn't back yet......maybe they have to do some emergency DR sessions, etc. to make the Kail leaving storyline look more like being a switched up vote

I'm sure if Kail asked to leave, the other hamsters would keep her in just to spite her anyway. Especially DICK!, so he could taunt her about it after. Jen would probably be her sole vote to evict.

I agree with Keith and I Hate Them All entirely. Kail and Jen went from the two I disliked the most to the two I'm rooting for the most, although maybe I'll go back to rooting for Dustin depending on what happens in the coming weeks.

Wait. What? How do you know that???

I believe they talked about it on the feeds today.

He told and demonstrated it to Ambore and some others up in the HOH room. Someone else also mentioned they did a nonsense message too, but I forget who that was.

While we wait for Skippy to return from his ciggie break and get the damn feeds back on (as promised by Julie at the end of tonight's show so we could see the HOH comp play out -- I bet half of them are already down by now dammit!) ... may I just say I was somewhat surprised, and mildly pleased, by the longish clip they aired tonight of the Jen/Dick/Nick fight from earlier this week. I understand that it had to be edited for language -- but even with those edits, it had to be clear to most of those people who only watch the broadcast shows what naughty words of Dick's were being bleeped out. And people got to see a pretty accurate portrayal of Jen's reaction to Dick and Nick's attack at the time it happened, minus the rule book perusal right afterwards. My only criticism at this point (I'm sure I'll think of more later) is that they didn't air his comments about his boot having to be surgically removed from her ass (much like they didn't air the "bones in her throat crushing in his hands" comments a while back). But other than that they gave people a pretty accurate picture, and didn't show any of his tender fatherly moments with the Princess.

And I LOVED Nick's reaction to the AP thing with Eric. His face when he was with Julie was priceless. Sweet chicken!! I'd pay a dollar to see that again!

Is anyone calling CBS to find out why the comp is not on the live feeds? I am this close to canceling the feeds this year. They take away the fun food comps and now the endurance comps?
Grrrrrrr

I'm trying to remember, have we had to wait for the WC airing before getting the endurance comps on the feeds in prior seasons?

I seem to remember that they used to actually show them. I think there was that one in the cage where they were back fairly quickly. But I think there was at least one last year where they didn't. And yeah, it sucks.

I wanna say no, but my 37-year-old memory's already failing me!!

ETA: Spiderweb!! Remember that one??...I think we got to see it online right after the east coast broadcast!! Didn't we??

I am almost positive we go right to endurance after East Coast broadcast. By three hours later a lot of them are already off.