It's not pretty, but we're stuck with Erika and Booger in the F2. Continue on with your outrage!

Damn! I was hoping it was just a really bad dream.

The one good thing about this, is it has brought us all back together again S6 lovers, S6 haters, Janelle lovers, Janelle haters, Danielle lovers, Danielle haters, George lovers, and George haters.

Even if the disagreements never turned ugly, it's good to have solidarity in disgust again.

KILL KILL KILL

I am sooo pissed part two of the competition was so impossible for a girl to beat a guy unless she was
She-ra or something. how could they have one that required so much upper body strength with a guy against our Janeydoll

I woke up this morning after my first good night's sleep in days! Leisurely made myself a pot of fresh ground coffee and pulled out the good china to drink it in. Turned on the TV to catch our Janelle on the Early Show (was she drunk?) and then reluctantly fired up the feeds. First thing I hear is someone fart.

How appropriate.

Why not just vote for Janelle to get the special 25K prize? She doesn't need me as a sponsor.

I can't imagine that Janey would want people's money in that way, but I can't see what's wrong with sending her a fan letter or card (which seems to be what her Mom suggested.) I think Janey would appreciate that more.

Something to keep in mind when talking about sending money to a reality show contestant (any one of 'em): they are paid at least industry minimum, which according to last year's stats was $2,483.00 for a 5 day work week. The daily rate is $716.00, so if the show is on three days a week, they are getting over $2,100.00 a week. I'm sure there are some contractual specifics for "Big Brother" and other reality shows, but just remember they are paid pretty well for their time and dignity.

I wish TVJunkie were around to explain it better!

Just so the previous posts make sense, someone posted Janelle's mom's mailing address in case people want to send her money (or other stuff). That same post was made in the recaps thread. The information now resides in Janelle's thread.

So it's basically a repeat of last year . . . where I won't be watching the final episodes because everyone sucks.

Janelle won a lot of comps, but she had real poor strategy. Her awakening was too little, too late, I'm afraid. If Kaysar were truly a strategist, he would have secretly worked to evict Boogie while buddying up to Will to form the greatest and strongest alliance in the house. But instead he just watched CT in awe and hoped the rest of the house would take them out. Oh how he was wrong. And Janelle and Howie aren't bright enough to call Kaysar on his poor planning, so they just went along with it. Only James was wise enough to know the deal, but he couldn't convince his own alliance so he had to defect. I really hoped he and Dani would make it farther than they did, but the mistakes of the past were too great. After a time, the entire house seemed under Will's spell. It's like they were obligated to let him win or something. Bah.

We need a return to basics next season. No secret partners. No prefab alliances of any sort. Just 14 people who don't know each other all grabbing for that $500,000 brass ring. Fourteen regular people (as regular as a reality TV contestant can be). Bring back the diversity of the earlier seasons. These past few seasons have been way too pretty. Mix it up a little and let the games begin!

It's one thing for you or I not to consider it - but the problem is Janelle didn't seem to consider it hard enough either. I'm completely convinced that she evicted Will for emotional reasons - and that's the worst possible scenario at this point in the game. Yeah, she had to get him out because he was the hardest of the three left to beat at the end - but they weren't at the end yet!

If she'd thought about it a little more strategically and a little less emotionally I think she would have realized that Will was NOT going to win the next HOH, which increased her chances of winning it herself.

If she'd evicted Erika instead of Will, Boogie would not have thrown the Volcano endurance competition - and Janelle most likely would have ended up winning that round. And you know she knew all the answers to part three last night. Then, after winning HOH, that was the proper time to turn on Will - and it would have been just as satisfying and fun for her.

You can't win the game if you don't get to the final two.

I found Jedi Janey's gloves, This is an xray of boogerboy.

Can someone eplease send me to housecalls when it's done? I don't have realplayer though :(

That's basically what Cami and others here said. My theory was that if Janie wanted to win, she had to do something BIG. My fear was that even if she won the last HoH and sent Will packing, he would make it sound like he was always in control and Mike deserved to win. By evicting him when she did, she appeared to be in control. It was a great move.

Beyond that, yeah I fell for all of Erika's empowered bullshit. I guess it's what I've been wanting to hear for weeks so I wanted it to be true. I'm ashamed I fell for it. She's sad and pathetic and I wish Lisa had made it in instead of her.

But at least now I don't have to worry about Will and Mike making a fool of Janie or Janie losing to Mike because Will convinced the jury she was nothing more than a pawn all season. Erika will be the bunt of all those jokes and if that's the role she wants to play - enjoy.

I've pretty much decided I'm done with BB. Really, the only thing that makes it fun is this website and the recaps. But when your final 2 comes down to this pair...

I mean, Booger was only there because Will wouldn't do the show unless Booger got picked.

And Scrubika? America's Choice? How the hell is she America's choice when her popularity on the CBS website never got above a 2.1? 2 point fucking 1. And we're supposed to believe America voted her in? Please.

I'm dumb, but I ain't THAT dumb.

So if BB is going to be so blatant about picking it's PoS hamsters, AND if it's going to remain sub-par in it's competition crap (The do-over HoH, the volcano and the two hands bullshit) AND if it's going to keep numb-fucked Chenbot as the hostess with the leastest clue, AND basically if the show is going to remain as fucking awful as it has...

Bleah. Just bleah.

I just saw that. Maybe they are all boycotting having to vote for one of these 2 turds!

My feeds are paid up until after the sho, because I bought the three-month deal. I thought I'd never tune in again, but then I remembered last year we saw Evilette and MagHag's reactions to the jury questioning. Anyone know when that might be?

Anyone else think part 3 of the HOH competition—the most important competition all season—is really STUPID?? Seriously, what kind of competition is that, where you have to guess ridiculous answers the former houseguests give, like Marcellus being the prettiest girl? You know James doesn’t really think that. It’s so bogus. Why didn’t they do ultra-minute trivia instead, like what color shirt was George wearing when he won the POV? (OK, he didn’t have one on, but you get where I’m going, don’t you?) Or, what brand of washing machine is in the house? Or what color is the felt on the pool table? Or who was chosen as announcer for the first POV competition? Anything but the drivel they had.

I’m also annoyed that Skippy never gave me a clear view of the memorial wall hangings from past seasons. A minor nit, but I never got a good look at them.

Unfortunately, HauntedRain, the prize only goes to a jury member. I’m hoping Danielle gets it, because she really played the hell out of the game. I doubt she will, though. Princess is too popular.


RogueScribner am smart. I agree. James had a weasely side, but he was RIGHT. Janie now admits she should have nominated Booger instead of her friend Marcellus. Ya think?! Her big mistake was ending up in F4 without trustworthy friends, and she made it happen because she went along with kicking them out. Which is why I’m not keen on seeing her get an additional $25,000. According to her, all she’d have to do to earn that much is work 25 days! The girl has little life ambition—she works one day a week. One. Mondays, in case you're interested.


Absolutely! And I don’t want big fake boobs to be a criteria for the women, either! Or sculpted abs for the men. No famehos is my ideal, but if I can't have that, I want at least to get fresh faces so I can pretend they're normal people.

Janey was awesome this season! After being continuously targeted since day one, she was one comp away from winning it all. Evicting evil Will was the highlight of the season for me.

I am finished for this year. I will not watch the feeds anymore nor will I watch the finale. Booger is one of the most vile and disgusting people on this planet. Scrubika is needy and desperate beyond words. Neither of them is worth my time.

I'm looking forward to next season. Less than 10 months away!

I'll never second guess Janelle kicking out Will. If she hadn't, maybe she would've made F2, but I'm betting she'd be getting much the same vitriol that Erika's getting right now. I also think she'd be ravaged by the jury and would probably end up losing. I'll take a 3rd place finish with dignity intact over that.

And I don't think her decision was purely emotional. She shook on the deal with Erika before they'd really hashed out everything...banana bread, Chilltown, etc. I think she took the deal because it gave her a slight chance of making F2 if she lost HoH. Will simply couldn't promise her F2 and Erika could. Now, I think all the girl power/emotional baggage helped make that decision, and I think it helped alot in that for once, Janelle thought Erika would have enough incentive to actually stick to a deal, but really, I do think Janelle had shown her willingness to dump CT before. She just needed to feel like she had the back-up to do it. I still think it was a smart move on her part. And if she hadn't lost focus on the volcano, who knows what might have happened.

According to hamsterwatch.com, Janelle isn't going to the jury house. She'll only join up with them for the Q&A session. Dingo, the webmaster, has been in touch with Janelle's family and friends, and Janelle herself, in the past, so I'm thinking she got this info legit.

Dingo implies that perhaps this is connected to this Vote for the Winner thing at CBS.com. I take that to mean that the producers will orchestrate Janey as the "defector" in order to give the vote some reason for being.

Sadly, nothing could make voting for either Boog or Erika have any reason or sense in this world.

No Jak, not you. Your the best and the brightest of us. If you quit where will the young one's get their guidance as they embark on their recapping careers. Your the shining light, the north star which directs and guides us in the ways of snarkdom. You have to share your god-given gift with us. Sure, in the end, the show sucks. In the end, the show always ends up sucking. We are always disappointed by the final 2. But you know what never disappoints us? Recapping. Yes, Recapping. Recapping makes everything better. Everyday is like Christmas morning as we wake up and rush to Hamster Time to find sparkling gems of snarky discourse to brighten our day. It would be a sin to withhold your natural talent Jak. A sin.

Besides, your better than just giving up Jak. This is what they want - they want you to give up. They want to silence you. Are you gonna give them that? Are you going to just meekly check out? That's not the Jak I know. The Jak I know wouldn't go out in a whimper. The Jak I know would go out in a blaze of recapping glory and then just sit back and rest up for the next great recapping season.

Your the man, Jak.

The final 2 in seasons two and three were pretty good in my opinion. But yeah, it's all downhill from there.

You know I think the show is more fun in fast-forward mode. So next year, they should start with 20 people and have 6 evictions in the first 6 weeks, and then 10 evictions in 5 weeks, and then one week to widdle the final 4 down to 2 and have the jury vote. That way even if I can't stand the final 2, I can at least enjoy fast-paces ploting for several weeks.

Awww. Cries a tear (/*ding*)

Fine. I'll do it again next year. But so help me god it better not suck.

Between horribly executed comps, random do-overs and people who went our in the fourth week of their season being included in "All-Stars" (BOOGER!), this entire season has just sucked. I can't believe Shapiro went on House Calls and had the nerve to brag about his so-called integrity as a producer.
This has been the worst, most unsatisfying season of BB ever.
I feel dirty.

If the Q&A session is tentatively tomorrow it would make sense for her to just be joining them then following her required stuff today. I don't really understand why she wouldn't stay unless they're all heading back to town to go to their hotels the next day? Anyway, I ddubt it has to do with Janelle and more to do with Stupid Ideas That Go Nowhere on BB.


*sigh* what the hell do I care for anyway, I shouldn't let BB rob me of any more brain cells.

Next year, BB8.

Twenty people chosen at random from all walks of life. Only 14 of them will be allowed in the house. In a great big competition, Booger and Scrubika are strapped to stakes in the middle of a playing field. Potential houseguests must run up to either Booger (for the guys) or Scrubika (for the girls) and tear off one body part and make it to the finish line. First 14 over the finish line get in. Whichever two houseguests cross the finish line with the heads are Co-HoH.

Inside the house, Janelle, Kaysar, and Howie are there to greet the new hamsters. No, they aren't playing, they're just there to hang out, host competitions, and provide Busto rants and late night chess talks when necessary. One feed in the house is guaranteed to be on one of these three at all times.

In a new twist, the competitions are actually tested before being used. Julie Chen is replaced by someone who can actually handle a live show without completely fucking it up. Julie remains as host of the Early Show.

James is the new host of House Calls, where half the show is a segment entitled "I Would Have Done It Better" where James goes step-by-step through each new evictee's gameplay, and explains how he, James, would have done it better. The second half of the show is an interview portion where the houseguest tries to talk and James snarks on them. No phone calls are taken.

Will is the new host of the DR. Houseguests go in to make their DR entries, and Will basically fucks with them. On late night feeds, at approximately 3:32 am Hammie Time, feed switches to Will, Janelle, and Kaysar all making out, for approximately 10 minutes every night.

One of the new decor items are the mounted heads of Ivette, Maggie, and Cappy. For the first veto, houseguests must toss flaming bags of shit at the heads. First hamster to catch one on fire wins veto.

The Jack Shack has been replaced by the revolutionary J-Blow3000. This is basically a glory hole where BJenn sits on a stool on the other side.

America's Choice this year is different as well. Each week, America votes on what they want the hamsters to be penalized for. Choices include singing, name dropping, or continual use of phrases such as "It is what it is", "Do you know what I'm saying?" and "At the end of the day." Possible penalties include stipend deductions, solitary confinement, and brief electric shocks.

Ah. Here's to BB8.

Yeah, I feel about BB All Stars the same way I felt about Survivor All Stars. I was extremely excited about the idea but almost instantly disappointed with the result. This game doesn't work as well when you have a house full of media-savvy previous contestants who all know each other socially to some extent. Like some other previous posters have said, I think BB needs to get back to basics, abandon the almost always disappointing twists, and find a cast of 14 truly diverse people.

*slowclap for Uaintjak*

Special love for the James' segment "I Would Have Done It Better."

Zgeist gave me a tear, and Jak gave me hope for a just universe. Bless you both.

I'm not saying I like it by any stretch mind you, but I do find it interesting that the Final Three came down to one of each of the three divisions that existed at the start of the game: ChillTown, S6 and Float Herd.

I guess I have little life ambition too, cuz if I could figure out a way to do that I surely the heck would. 0 days would be my preference.

My Janey doll am smart.

Bravo BB8 - The Jak Version!!!!

See everyone - this is the greatness that is uaintjak.



Fantastic, but I would add a pit before the finish line that is filled with trash collected from the BB house as well as all the gunk and hair accumulated in the shower drains. The potential houseguests would have to swin through this pile of filth before they could cross the finish line.



Absolutely! That's what's really enjoyable about those three anyway - you just want to watch and "hang out" with them. Whenever a HG is feeling down and questioning themselves the their life, they can go to Kaysar who will naval gaze and philosophize with them. Whenever things get especially boring, Howie will go the jack-shack or come up with some goofy sports analogy or play BigBoy



Once again, genius. The only thing that could make it better is to have some sort of stresser hanging over James' head - like he can lose the job if he makes some sort of mistake so we can also see alternate between extreme cockiness followed almost immediately by extreme agony of anxiety. Also, he would have to conduct the show with fingers crossed at all time and every 5 minutes or so he would have to sniff Sarah's scarf



YES! The biggest non-secret secret of the reality tv world is that contestants get advice and info in the DR sessions. Having Will conduct the sessions so that he mind-fucks all the contestants all the time as well as engineer ridiculous DR skits would be funny as hell. In fact, what they would need to do to make it better is that random DR sessions of the various HGs would be shown, on a highly inconsistent basis, on the TV screen in the house



This gets down to the heart of things - we don't want to give the HGs prizes. We want to punish them. We want to make them suffer to earn their money. We want to make them suffer when they do things that annoy us. If BB made this a feature of the game, I guarentee that the ratings would sky-rocket.

The only other thing I would add is cutting the prize money into two parts - 250,000 by jury vote and 250,000 based on popular vote for ANY HG. That way, we never feel cheated by a terrible F2

Brilliant jak! I'll watch that anyday.

Ahh Bee, always the optimist!! Thank you for your glass half full analysis of the F3.

Brilliant! Especially I like the James additions and the random showing of DR entries. Oh, and Zgeist, the Jack Shack was replaced with the J-Blow3000.

I love that idea! Good one, Zgeist!

lily2003, can you explain further what you mean? I'm feeling dense today. If Janelle defected, why would it give the vote more reason? Thanks in advance.

The Vote for the Winner thing has s blurb at the bottom that says something like "In the even one of the jurors is unable to perform their duties, your vote could help break a tie."

I think she's saying rumors of a Janelle defection might explain why we have been given that option when we haven't before.

After reading the posts here, I keep going back to Dingo's hamsterwatch site and rereading the stuff at the bottom of the page about the tie vote, etc. and still don't read where it says anything about Janey defecting on the page for today/yesterday. What am I missing? Is that on another page? I mean just two hours ago she was on Housecalls and said she'd be going to a hotel and getting together with the rest of the jury for the Roundtable. Why does that suggest she's defecting?

ETA: Okay I found a new thing on the right side panel - but still don't get where that suggests Janey is defecting. Oh well, I am not a very good conspiracy theorist I guess!

Janelle said on House Calls she's going to a hotel room, not sequester.

Jak, I love your ideas. (I'm so Jakealous.)
I'm not crazy about your electric shock idea, tho. I mean, why does it have to be brief?

Not that it really matters, but: on The Evil Bitchwhorika from Hell - I thought she was just a piece of gutter slime from a small town called Chill, not a floater.

Gosh I am so depressed. This sucks! I mean, it sucks so bad I don't even feel like cussing anymore. I don't think I can snark... I'm snarkless.

I think the only thing that could, possibly, maybe, might make me feel a little better is if just one of the nicknames I came up with that everybody used all summer made it into the Acronyms & Nicknames Thread. You know, like Butt-Monkey or Daywalker.
*sniffle*

Oh, well.
*sniffle* *sigh*

I think the Vote for the Winner little message is just a CYA thing on the part of the producers in case one or more of the hammies decide to pull some grandstand move and refuse to cast a vote. This All-Stars group has more of it's share of people who might consider such a move to get some extra-attention and steal the show at the end. They have to make sure they have a contigency plan in place if someone decides to subvert the Live Finale.

Not knowing exactly where the replacement sequester house is located, it might not be worth the cost, time, and effort to get her to sequester to only bring her right back almost immediately. That she's being iced in a hotel until the final doesn't strike me as strange at all.

Ooh, Daywalker isn't in there? We'll have to add it.

Ye shall have yer TM!

Well, these are the steps to follow:

1) Be lucky enough to be born with good genes and female.
2) Spend a little money or have someone spend money for you on "enhancements" to these good genes in the upper torso area.
3) Learn how to flirt and build up the ego's of rich males.

There you go! Recipe for success! (I am smart, too!)

We're all smart. Everyone's smart. No one is unsmart, other than Cowturd. Let's call that a given and move on.

I didn't think third place *ever* went to sequester, but maybe I am misremembering.

Definitely, no more famewhores. And that would include wannabe reject famewhores too! Meaning, if you tried out for any other reality tv show, commercial, music video, extra, etc. you are automatically removed from consideration.

You read my mind Jak. BB should have at least a couple of houseguests from previous seasons. Their goal would be to simply fuck shit up. You know, start rumors, spread misinformation, form faux alliances, have a feast when the whole house is on slop, and generally make their lives a living hell. That way, especially in the beginning week, it won't be so fuckin boring.

Fuckin werd.

Bwaaaahahaha!! Perfect.

You're preaching to the choir brother.

You see? This should been happening since Day One. More fan participation is a must if this show is to survive another season.

Great Ideas Jak. BB needs to get more creative and mean. And I'm not talking about stoopid twists that don't work. I'm thinking more along the lines of serious head games. Like:

~ Without warning, BB can switch their mics to loudspeaker so that their conversations can be heard all over the house except the room that their in. So they would never know when they are being overheard.

~ The living room television is set to security came mode so that the houseguest can see inside every room in the house at any time (except for one, chosen randomly, and only at 10 minute intervals).

~ Some penalties should include:

BB showing a DR session to the whole house (I think zgeist mentioned something like this).

BB gets to out an alliance or part of it.

Slop for a week for the whole house.

Inside lock down for 24 hours for the whole house.

Can't compete for HoH or Veto the following week.


If BB would just start penalizing these hamsters, the show would so much better.

Oh, Highwaygirl, I love you! Thanks!

I do feel better. Do you want to be in a VaJayJay Alliance with me? I have big plans.
Don't worry, no jury would ever convict. You do not go to prison for pest control.

But I do love chocolate cake, MrsGryn. In case it ever comes to that.

Oh, on House Analysis... I thought the house was nice but I prefer colonials myself.
And the last two hammies suck.

Ahh so I see this is the interesting thread now. God Bless the recappers still muddling through the F2. I couldn't do it.

I like all of those ideas for next season.

I wish we could do an alternate reality recap thread of the sequester house. On one of my soap boards we do that if the show is pre-empted due to sports or something; and just make up what the characters are doing and saying.

Guaranteed reading the fake recaps of the jury house would be ten times more interesting than what I just read. ( I only managed a couple of pages worth of the real recaps.) Too bad Janey isn't going to be there. I'd love to read everyone's take of Janey walking through the door and what everyone did or said.

Alas, I'll just go find some more clips on youtube. Watching Dani's breakdown for the 3rd time is far more entertaining.