Magpie
Sep 7 2006, 08:15 PM
Gah, this poll was painful to have to type. Bleh.
chrysana
Sep 7 2006, 08:20 PM
I'm refusing to vote...I just can't do it! I am so bummed and depressed about the recent turns of events. Erika doesn't deserve to win I can't handle how she kissed Boogie after the eviction tonight. How can she let herself get played like that? Booger I just hate - he's so gross, ugly and such an ass that I can't stomach the thought of him winning.
This is too much like last season, I could've cared less between Maggie and Ivette.
The only thing I'm looking forward to is hearing about Erika's reaction when she hears how badly she was played this season.
MrsGryn
Sep 7 2006, 08:22 PM
I'd rather see Erika win over that...that...that gross excuse for a human being.
Magpie
Sep 7 2006, 08:23 PM
I hate them both, but I voted for Booger. No real reason, other than he might get a vote or two for bringing it after his Master got evicted. Some dumbass or another might admire him for being able to oust Janelle from the house.
*goes to happy place where Janey wins the AC and winds up with more money than the runner-up*
Sophy
Sep 7 2006, 08:23 PM
I think Booger might just win, if Will can work his magic, which is likely - and if Janey wises up and realizes Erika played her at the end. I for one think Erika threw the HOH to Booger - I knew the answer to the Will question, he wasn't shocked to be evicted, he knew it was possible and even told Booger earlier in the day that it might happen and Booger needed to be prepared. She totally threw it to Booger.
Here is what I think the votes might be right now, with Janey as the tie-breaker:
Booger = Will, James, Dani
Scrubika = Marcy, George, Howie
Janey could go either way, but if Will looks at her in just the right and Booger flames Scrubika at the Q&A roundtable, she might vote for Booger to win.
Or hell I could be totally wrong. I just don't know, I just don't care - and REAL won't even let me cancel my feeds right now because it's after 9pm Eastern. Sigh ...
Anyway, I hate them both, am rooting for neither, am hoping Janey wins the $25K - but of the two I guess - and I can't believe I'm typing this - but I hope that ........ oh forget it, I can't even say who I hope wins. This is as bad as last year ...
They have each other, alone, for the next five days - just desserts baby!
Lausana
Sep 7 2006, 10:15 PM
I vote in my heart for Sparky. boohiss.
Sardonic
Sep 7 2006, 11:01 PM
First question: Janelle wins the $25K Rupert Memorial Prize. OBVIOUSLY. And when this twist gets announced to the jury, James is going to roll his eyes and make a bitter and caustic comment unless, of course, Janelle is in earshot. If Kaysar had made it to jury, it would have been his, though.
I think Erika probably has the votes to win at this moment, however, that could change.
MARCELLAS: Definitely for Erika.
GEORGE: Definitely for Erika.
HOWIE: He doesn't like Erika all that much, but he HATES Booger.
WILL: Mike, duh.
JAMES: I don't know how much he knows about Erika's machinations. If he knew, he'd be impressed and might vote for her, but I imagine he will vote for Boogie.
DANIELLE: I would think Boogie, but at the same time, she seemed proud and impressed that Erika and Janelle teamed up against Will... so it might be up in the air.
JANELLE: Erika, probably.
At this moment, Erika presumably leads 4-3.
Now, here's where it gets interesting. Will is CLEARLY going to try and sway Janelle into voting for Mike. Janelle, however, is the tool Erika needs to make sure Howie's vote is a lock for her. Danielle, too, might be swayed if Janelle comes to jury house speaking highly of Erika.
Mike has a move he can still make, and he can make it effectively. What he needs to do is CALL ERIKA OUT during the jury questioning and tell Janelle that Erika threw the challenge to him, regardless of whether or not he knows it for a fact or is just speculating. That's all he'd need for Will to swoop in and work on Janelle. Janelle would in turn try and sway Howie. He could also try to play nice, and hope for Janelle's vote that way, but I'm not sure that he's confident enough in James or Danielle's votes for that to happen. He needs to GO OFF on Erika in the jury conversation in order to get Howie and Janelle against her. Would Howie or Janelle believe him in that situation, though?
aminca
Sep 8 2006, 12:36 AM
Where's the "Who the fuck cares, They're both repulsive and the worst F2 ever" option? If Whorika is a whore, what is the BoogerButtMonkey? We have a choice between the slut and the man-slut.
bttrcup
Sep 8 2006, 12:56 AM
QUOTE(Sardonic @ Sep 7 2006, 11:01 PM) [snapback]31182[/snapback]
At this moment, Erika presumably leads 4-3.
I look at those same names and think Boogie will win. James and Danielle will appreciate the strategy that both he and Will employed - especially compared against Erika. James called Erika furniture - if he now voted for her to win, I'd be shocked! Marcellus had a crush on Boogie - and Boogie did play a good game. It's got to be easier on Marcellus' ego to vote for Boogie than for Erika. Janelle could go either way, but I bet she'll be a little less enthusiastic about Erika now that she's in sequester. Even without Will's vote I bet Boogie would win.
Plus, Boogie is simply a more palatable choice for most of the jury. None of the jurors is going to be enthusiastic about giving the big All-Stars winner’s crown to a floater – it’s just not good for their egos! Voting for Boogie, is in essence giving the win to ChillTown, and at parties for the next five years I bet they’d all prefer to say, “Yeah I was beat by the best, Boogie was the winner, but it was all orchestrated by Dr. Will, so what could I do?” Sure sounds better than, “Yeah, I was beat by a floater.”
uaintjak
Sep 8 2006, 01:23 AM
I voted "Who the fuck cares?" (in my head I voted that)
Because really? At the end of the day, it is what it is, and what it is is "Who the fuck cares when the choice is between an asshole and an ass?"
Your mileage may vary, of course.
Cami
Sep 8 2006, 05:41 AM
Howie won't vote for Will's buttmonkey's whore-- he had no respect for her "game". Janelle already told Will's buttmonkey's whore she'd have to vote for Will's buttmonkey if he made it to F2. I think Will's buttmonkey's whore is looking at a vote from Chicken George, and that's it.
I hope Janelle wears her tiara to the roundtable and the finale. It's all I have left.
aurora
Sep 8 2006, 09:10 AM
Cosign Who The Fuck Cares.
Just can't make myself vote for either of them.
tooletta
Sep 8 2006, 09:22 AM
I voted for Erika and broke the tie. I did that because: I picked Erika to win the first day. Because I love my avatar. Because I hate Boogie more.
I think Boog had a clear advantage over Erika in that final round. He personally heard Will say that he thought he was going home. Erika did not hear Will say that. I don't think she threw the comp. I saw her talking to herself and to the camera yesterday, and I do believe that she would have taken Janey. She seemed to really be over how the boys played them.
I think Erika will continue to play Boog, in hopes that he'll be easy on her during Jury questioning. I certainly hope she brings up all of the fabulous prizes he's won. She has one final chance to throw him under the bus on Tuesday. Regardless of her terrible, (the worst), taste in men, she's still a nice person and deserves better. I hope she takes it all and runs far, far away from him.
If Boog wins, I will throw myself on the floor and curse my very existence.
teddi
Sep 8 2006, 10:09 AM
I vote that Chill Town wins either way. Boogie wins, Will wins too. If Erika wins, she'll probably split the banana bread......errr "the Big Picture" in her never ending quest for a Booger baby. Either way, a loser wins AGAIN, IMO.
Just Kimmie
Sep 8 2006, 11:13 AM
Now here's a question....which is worse:
S6 F2 (Haggie and Me-vette) or
All-Stars F2 (Boogtard and Scrubika)
?????
Me? I'm hard-pressed to choose.
merlynn
Sep 8 2006, 11:29 AM
Just Kimmie,
I think this one is worse because I could grudingly admit that Maggie played a great game and she was the brains of the nerd herd.
In my opinion, neither Mike nor Erika should be there. They were left in the game because Will was good enough to make Operation Double Date a success. They both had some good moments that covered their asses, but they were definately not the best of the All-Stars.
I can't vote for either of them. I'm ashamed Erika is a woman and I'm ashamed I thought this woman grew a spine and was going to walk out of the house with some dignity. But the idea of a Mike win? Still he probably was the better player of the two who are left. Yuck.
Cami
Sep 8 2006, 12:06 PM
This poll should be called "Satan's Choice".
Magpie
Sep 8 2006, 12:26 PM
QUOTE(Cami @ Sep 8 2006, 12:06 PM) [snapback]31381[/snapback]
This poll should be called "Satan's Choice".
Your wish is my command.
ZGeist
Sep 8 2006, 12:54 PM
I think Erika is going to end up winning and at first last night I thought that was the lesser of two evils but on further thought, I've changed my mind. I've hated the Douchebag on first sight but Whorika, after realizing how the Douchebag was f'n her over, actually seems to find that appealing and sexy. On top of that, the way she started making fun of Janey for having fallen for Will while cozying up to Douchebag was extremely disgusting.
Vote breakdown as I see it:
Marcy - Erika - firm
Janelle - Erika - possible that Will could turn this but doubt it
Howie - Erika - hates them both but will go with Janelle's info and vote erika
KG - Erika - stated to Dani that he was voting for the person who most needed money
Danielle - Erika - this could go either way but believe she will forgive erika
Will - Boogie - no analysis needed here
James - Boogie - hated Erika's game play and sucked up to CT all the time in house
Highwaygirl
Sep 8 2006, 01:10 PM
This season is by far the worst final two this show has ever seen ... and the banner will say so later tonight.
cubkip
Sep 9 2006, 01:20 PM
I voted for Boog. Both Dani and Janey said they would vote for the best player. Janey even said that she thought Boog played a better game than her on the feeds once. So I think Janeys vote goes to Boog. James said he would never vote for Erika so his vote goes to Boog. Dani...no question- Boog. Will....no question- Boog. CG and Marci vote for Erika. Howie is the only one I am not sure about. He may think long and hard because he regrets his vote last year. Either way, Boog wins. I prefer this outcome anyway. I hate them both, but I have always hated self rightousness more. Erika tries to pretend she is sweet. Boog admits to being an ass. Therefore, I hate Erika more. Also, she gives a bad name to women everywhere!
ff174
Sep 9 2006, 06:02 PM
I gave this a lot of thought. OK, no I didn't. It came to me whilst I was on the crapper.
I would vote for Erika to win.
First, she did show some game play. I remember way back in week 1 (when we all actually gave a shit,) that she was primarily responsible for letting Janelle know that her plan to oust Allison was starting to collapse. Janelle fixed the problem and Erika got what she wanted: her mortal enemy, Allison, was tossed.
Also, she did do a very good job of not letting the rest of the house know that she was aligned with Mike and Will (well, mostly Will.)
Of course, she deserves a lot of credit for bouncing Will.
Sure, she gets big negative points for turning on Janelle, and not because I liked Janelle and am angry at her for that (I'm not.) What annoys me most is that she went with Mike because he smooched her a couple of times and, once again, thinks that she has a future with the scumbag. I felt badly for her during the first part of the game when he treated her like shit (dutch oven) and all of the crappy things he said about her. Then, after turning on what she condsidered to be charm, she melted into his arms. Even now, she is running around the house nesting and complementing Mike and I can't believe that she hasn't caught on to the fact that he doesn't give a shit about her.
Meanwhile, Mike hasn't done a damn thing, strategy wise other than be an Igor, or ButtMonkey, to Will.
Two other reasons include needing the money more than Mike (she can use it on therapy and hire someone to kill Mike,) plus the sheer shadenfreude I will experience when Mike doesn't win. I think that right now he thinks he has it in the bag and is even smugger than usual. He won't gain any of the "street cred" and I really think that his business exploits may suffer a little.
I also hope that Erika's brother travel in the same circles as Janelle's boyfriend and is at the wrap party, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
ImmaMeanGirl
Sep 9 2006, 10:38 PM
Hmmmmmmm..
To quote Marci..
On one hand you have the clap and on the other syphilis..
or something to that effect..
I believe Booger going to take this fiasco of a season..
Will, of course, will vote for him
Janie, she has always said she’ll vote for the best player and has alluded to that being, in this case, Booger
Howie will vote for who Janie votes for
Danielle will vote for Booger. She is a vengeful, unforgiving woman and I don’t believe she will forget what Erika did. Even though she’ll say Erika made a strategic mistake, it’s because Erika nominated her.
James will vote for Booger because 1) Dani will and b) he wants to keep his Kool Kid Kard.
CG will probably vote for Erika.
Marci is the flip-flopped. He’ll have both Will and Dani in his ear, campaigning for Will with no one in the house talking Erika up.
I’m calling my shot.
Booger wins 6 - 1
gforce
Sep 10 2006, 08:06 PM
I'd say that's a pretty good assessment ImmaMeanGirl, although I don't think Howie voted the same as Janey last year and he left pretty pissed at Booger, so that may be different. But ultimately, it's definitely looking in Booger's favour. And although I hate that it's come down to this, I would say he "deserves" it more than Erika. "Satan's Choice" indeed.
lily2003
Sep 10 2006, 08:16 PM
I read that Janelle said that the producers asked her to change her vote last year from Ivette to Maggie to make it close. (It was a reliable source.) So Howie did vote the same as her originally. It makes more sense that she'd vote for Ivette; she had no love for Maggie's "game" style.
So I too think that ImmaMeangirl's got it all sussed out. Boog knows it too. He told us 5-2 or 6-1 earlier this afternoon.
Gotta say, after her ridiculous, egomaniacal blathering last night and today, Boog should get it. He's someone who's full of himself on the outside, but insecure inside, same as her. But he makes brief visits to Sanity and self-deprecation now and then.
MrsGryn
Sep 11 2006, 08:37 AM
They both had the same game plan: ride coattails. I'm still hoping for Erika because I think there's a shred of decency in there somewhere. None of that for the Toothless Wonder.
merlynn
Sep 11 2006, 12:29 PM
QUOTE
I read that Janelle said that the producers asked her to change her vote last year from Ivette to Maggie to make it close. (It was a reliable source.) So Howie did vote the same as her originally. It makes more sense that she'd vote for Ivette; she had no love for Maggie's "game" style.
I think you have the names backwards here. Maggie won last year. If Janie changed her vote, she went from Maggie to Ivette. Actually, I believe she said during the finale that she messed up her vote. It was pretty clear that Rachel influenced Howie's vote last year. That goodbye message that Ivette left Rachel is probably the biggest reason she lost.
I don't know if Janie will influence Howie's vote. If the stuff we saw from the sequester house wasn't fake (and considering they broke out of sequester it probably was) then Howie didn't let his feelings about Marci or George go very easily and I can't think of anyone in that house Howie was more mad at than Mike. Even though Howie had no great love for Erika, I still think he'll vote for her.
However, I think she'll still lose. People might say it's a personal vote for Dani, and it probably is. But there is plenty of room for Dani to argue that Mike played the better game. I can see James and Janie voting the same way. It could be as close as 4-3, but I still think Mike wins it.
Unless BB is setting it up right now so that we have a tie and America's vote decides. I can't bring myself to care enough to vote for either one of them personally.
Snooky
Sep 11 2006, 01:02 PM
QUOTE
They both had the same game plan: ride coattails. I'm still hoping for Erika because I think there's a shred of decency in there somewhere. None of that for the Toothless Wonder.
Me, too. I think she's under the evil influence of the Demon Booger. Trapped in there with him, of course she gets cocky -- it's Evil Booger washing off on her. Someone call an exorcist!
Seriously, I liked her fine in Season 4, when she was teamed with Jack. He was awesome! She had good taste back then. And Josh was the cutie-patootie of S1, and she was with him for five years. But this evil Booger fixation that's bringing her down. Yes, I'm disappointed in her, but I don't hate her. Guess I don't have enough energy over the show to hate her, or I don't see that she's done anything that heinous (not being with Janelle in the F2 isn't her fault, and even if it was, that's her choice. Janelle needed to win final HOH, and she failed.) Still hate Booger, though. Freely and completely.
I think basically she's a nice person. I also don't like that she's been labeled "whore" when Booger is no better and there isn't a comparable male term we can use on him. In fact, Booger is worse--he's the one heartlessly whoring himself out because he wanted to use her in the game. Erika thinks she's with him out of luuuurve, which does not a whore make.
merlynn
Sep 12 2006, 09:47 AM
After giving this some thought, I'm not sure Mike really rode coattails. At least not in the way Erika did.
Mike was part of a well-known alliance - Chilltown. He is the only member of that alliance that won competitions. The only veto he won might have been thrown to him, but he won HoH 3 times. Mike also won the Coup. And even though he couldn't keep his mouth shut, he did manage to use that power to influence George's nominations. Getting Howie out of the house was a huge part in Will's plan to use Janie.
Mike might not have been the mastermind of his alliance, but he definately contributed to CT's success in the game this year.
Erika on the other hand, did very little. She might have always thought of herself as part of CT, but I doubt Mike or Will thought of her that way. She made a bold move the first week by moving the house to get rid of Allison, but she did very little after that. She was always saying she would "vote with the house." Her next "bold" move was to betray Dani - a person she had a final 2 deal with - but she did that at Will's prompting. She then worked her ass off to get Will booted, but Janie was the one who had to be bold enough to do it. When it was time for Erika to deliver on the other final 2 promise she made - she either failed or threw it.
In the end, I think Mike played a better game. He was loyal to the only person in the house that should have expected his loyalty. He played hard at the end when winning competitions mattered the most. He probably has some people on the jury pissed at him, but at least his strategy for the game wasn't crying and letting people lick whip cream off of him. He might be a disguesting pig, but if people vote for him because he played a better game - I'll understand their decision.
MrsGryn
Sep 12 2006, 10:03 AM
Very well thought out and well said, merlynn. I still think Booger is a coattail rider because without Will, he would have been nothing and wouldn't even have made the jury. And Erika is worse because she's the coattail rider of a coattail rider!
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