By double eviction they mean the person who leaves by vote from Erika's HoH and the person who leaves at the hand of the new HoH...right? Yeah..has to be. The way that's wording makes it sound like 2 are going home AFTER the hour long Hoh, noms and vetos.

Do tell - Did George get the slop free pass for all week? If so, I am so glad that the house is being so gracious to him!

Yep, he sure did, and he's down in the KT right now cooking up a huge amount of food!

I have a feeling that Will is going to overplay his Janie hand, and it's going to result in her eviction, which is a shame, because I'd rather see him go than her.

No way. Boogie and Will have the votes to keep Janelle and send George packing. And Will will LUV blindsiding Erica because it will make DOOG TV!

I think it's kind of happening right now. Erika isn't really buying Will's Dani shit right now in the HOH, and some this she will share with Dani. Erika won't put all her eggs in one basket, she did it on her season and it came back to bite her in the ass. She's as bad as the rest of them having alliances with everyone in the same house.

But, does it matter as far as Janelle is concerned??? As long as Boogie and Will stay off the block, those two have the votes to keep and evict whomever they choose!

I think it does matter where Janelle is concerned. Right now, since Erika is HOH, Will and Booger are both telling her she's their Yoko. All along, CT has been talking about picking up one of the three girls to make the end run. Right how Erika is in power. Will may try to save Janelle, but will Booger risk going against what Erika wants?

I guess it depends on if Booger is really ballsy enough to break ties to Erika, and commit to a CT-Janey F3. As for Will? He'll do whatever he thinks will keep him in the game longer. Because that's how he rolls.

ETA: Will DOES know that if Dani and Erika are in power next week, he's the next one in the booting order. So maybe he'll work hard this week to save Janey. I just don't know how far he'll be willing to go.

I don't recall if we've thrown this idea out yet, but I was thinking about this week's Veto. If Erika nominates Janey and CG, then I would love to see Will be the one to win Veto and take Janey off the mac. If that happens, wouldn't Erika then have to choose between Dani and Booger as Janey's replacement?

If I'm right, then I bet we'd see lots of wailing and crying, which is always DOOG TV on this show.

Who's up for a Road Trip? Someone over at TV Clubhouse found the Sequester House in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico. The poster put together comparison shots ... that's it alright.

Way to drop the ball on keeping secrets yet again, BB.

After the (warranted) bad publicity that Survivor is getting, I have THE PERFECT IDEA FOR BB 8!! Now, just think this over for a moment. Who in their right mind would not totally love a REDNECK BB???? Just think of the possibilities!! C'mon, CBS, get 'er done!!

I hereby admit that my family is full of rednecks, but I know for a fact that I would not be able to watch a house full of Michael/Cowboys. The one drove me crazy enough that I can't imagine a whole house full.

I think that would be Erika's worst case scenerio. At that point, she'd have to risk putting up Mike or she'll lose Dani.

If Will won veto and took Janie off, Erika would have to know he's on her side. That means she can't trust Mike to protect her so she needs Dani in the house.

She could easily justify it to Mike, telling him if he gets evicted Will betrayed him by choosing to save Janie. But it would take more spine for her to do that then we have seen from her so far.

The good news for Erika is that I don't think Will will put all his chips in with Janie just yet. He has to know that if he so obviously goes with Janie, he'll be risking Mike. If he really is true to Mike - first and foremost - he won't do that. He might throw her the veto but I don't think he'll go for it himself.

Saving Janelle this week makes the most sense for Willbooger, regardless of Danielle or Scrubika's wishes.

They already believe Danielle is coming after them. Next HoH, they can either have it be George/Danielle versus Willbooger, or have it be Danielle versus Janelle/Will/Booger. Three on one is a lot better for them than 2 on 2.

Then there's voting. If Danielle or George won HoH, they'd put up Willbooger. There's simply no one left to put up. That means if say Dani has HoH, George and Scrubika vote, and if there's a tie, then Dani breaks it. Turd Town would have absolutely no control over the votes.

However, if George goes home, and Danielle wins HoH, then you have at least one person playing veto for you who isn't on the block, and you have at least one person - two if you count Scrubika - who's can vote how you wish.

Exactly...if it comes down to keeping Janelle and pissing off Erika, who cares? Erika CANNOT compete for HOH next week, so if CT does piss her off, they'll just see to it Erika goes up next week, courtesy of Janelle, Will or Booger, leaving Danielle the only person who MIGHT not put Erika up. Couldn't be easier

I agree, but the question is will either of them go out of their way to win Veto to save Janie. They could save Janie by leaving the nominations as they are. But they take a lot bigger risk if they actually pull her off and push for a Dani eviction.

I don't think it's risky for them at all, regardless of whether or not they veto Janey off. Either way, they save her with their votes or they save her with the veto. They still control the votes either way, unless Janelle gets taken off and turns on them (which Will is sure won't happen).

Janelle will turn on them, but not until after this week. Why would she? But you're right...either Janey vetoes herself off, or Willbooger vote to keep her against Dani's vote to keep George. Win-win!

Ok but just because Will is mostly sure Janie won't turn on them doesn't mean it won't happen.

Bascially what I'm saying is that if Will or Mike wins veto and uses it, they risk pissing Erika off enough to nominate the other person. That opens them up to the possibility that Janie will vote with Dani and evict one of them.

Yes Will is sure that won't happen, but he has to know he and Mike are the last official pair in the house AND he has to know it would be tempting for anyone in that house - Janie included - to break that pair up. Even if he thinks it's only a 5% chance, I don't think he'll risk it.

And there's always the possibility that Dani wins Veto and takes George off. Then CT is totally out of control.

ETA: I think what this comes down to is: Mike will not use Veto because he won't risk a Will nomination. He might vote Janie off to cement his place in the house with Will. I don't know if Mike realizes it or not, but it's better for him to get rid of Janie than anyone else. On the other hand, Will might risk using Veto to save Janie and she may very well vote Mike out if he does. I think she 100% has it in her to turn to him and say "That was as hard for me as voting Howie out was for you." What is Will going to do at that point?

Now Will might think he can get Erika to put up Dani, but I'm not sure he can if he blatently saves Janie. It's all a matter of how much Will is willing to risk for Janie. If he risks too much, I think it could easily get him or Mike evicted. I'm hoping it does anyway.

I'd love to see Kitchen George win veto and take Janelle off.

When I thought about him winning, I wondered if he would do that. I mean you might as well evict him if he did. It would be clear he didn't care about winning the game.

I wonder if that is true though. I know he wants to be liked by America and that makes him want to protect America's sweetheart Janie - but does he want that more than he wants the money. Especially when he and Dani could just vote to keep her if they can convince Erika to put up Will?

I'm pretty sure George would like to give CT a little payback for that bullying stunt Mike pulled during his brief HoH.

Hell, George might be ready for sequester, knowing he'll be on slop again next week. He might like to go out in a grand, silly gesture like that. It sort of seems his style.

OK, why in the world would he do THAT???? What would be the impetus for such a move?

On Dingo's site, she (I think it's a she) reports that George told Janelle he would use it on her, since he won't make it to the end anyway and he'll make just as much money either way.

Plus, you know, George? Expect to expect the unexpected.

And how could Janelle vote George out after that? Say Will went up-- Janelle votes out Will, Boobie votes out George, and Dani? Why wouldn't she vote out Will? She claims to have a mighty fear of Chicken George, but I doubt she'd pass up the opportunity to break up the power of 2 and avenge James.

So George could have his grand silly gesture AND end up staying! That would be awesome.

Oh, God NO. That would suck ASS and virtually guarantee George wins it all. Lord, NO!!!

Personally, I think that would be AWESOME! I'm a DrEvil fan, and Janie too, but can you imagine the CRUSHED EGOS of everyone in the house if CG wins this?? Dr Z will be in practice for a long time.

I don't know-- can you imagine how pissed folks in sequester would be over a gesture like that, that cost them the game? I don't see him getting a lot of love votes. But I'm sure he'd be happy with second place. It's not so bad!!

I *think* Dani just told Erika (in her own convuluted way) that if Erika lets her win POV, Will would be gone.

One thing that has me very curious about the strategy convo earlier with Dani and Erica. Okay, two things. As far as I can tell, Ericka hasn't told Boogie anything about it and, more importantly, Dani seems to be completely ignoring the Boogie/E connection. She must be very sure that E is just playing B in order to be that open about going after Will. Or did the all-seeing Dani just miss this one? Interesting that E seemed to be wrestling with her loyalties after that convo. I love it that we still have surprises in store...for the Hammies and us!

Merged double posts -- Mags

Whew! I just had a freakin' PANIC ATTACK (exaggerate, much??)....the last pre-season Dallas Cowboys game starts at 7pm Central this Thursday....I was sure I would miss what is probably gonna be the best BB ep of the season...but, it's on a sister station! Woo hoo!

And...go Cowboys!

I think Erika is more with Dani than anyone believes. When the HG's first came into the house, Erika told a couple of people that Dani was her favourite HG, and that she actually felt honoured being able to play with her. Later, Erika told Dani that she (Dani) was her girl, and with Marci they had a good shot. I'm hoping she's playing along with CT, and that's why she's not sharing info and has said on more than one occasion, Will needs to go first. I know people think Erika is a floater, but I don't really see it that way, she's worked pretty hard to get herself into the good position she's in now, and has certainly tried to win various HOH's and vetoes.

I don't mean to be the Queen of Changing the Subject...but, what's this "Christmas" thing Will and everyone are on about, supposedly set for tomorrow??? Is this something they're hoping for, or have been told about??

It's apparently something they won during the food comp. It sounds like they were asked in DR what kind of presents each of them would like, but the details are fuzzy as to whether BB is just going to rain gifts down upon them or make them play for them.

Freaky! I was just coming here to post that my boss had given me her coveted tickets to this Thursday's Redskins game, and I was mondo pumped. . . until I heard the promo for the next live show and now I'm thinking . . .eh-it's only preseason right? How pathetic does that make me?

And . . . go Skins!

These people are such idiots, if Dani goes, I'm officially on the Chicken George caboose.

Will just promised Erika that if she put up Danielle so they could vote her out, and the three of them (Will, Boobie, Erika) ended up in final 3, he would bow out, allowing an Erika/Boobie final 2. Thus removing Erika's biggest reason for wanting to get rid of Will.

Looks like Dani's toast.

After Erika does what Boogie couldn't bring himself to do, CT will stab her in the back enxt. Will wants to take Janie to the F2, and he'll have Janelle sacrifice Boogie to do it. He keeps saying if people are really your friends, they'll still be your friends, and I believe it's for Boogie's benefit, no one else's.

These women should have joined up forces the minute Howie left and gone after CT as fast as they could.

I'm thrilled that when I logged on this AM that Janelle won PoV. Except now that they could actually get rid of one of CT and if Erika actually has the nuts to do it, they unfortunately control the vote and George will go, even though he's no threat to win anything because CT, I'm sure, sees the advantage to get rid of a threat (and Janelle does too.) I would be so excited if Will went this week because I DO NOT WANT HIM TO WIN AGAIN--HE NEEDS TO GO!!!

Every year I sit through this torture of a show and all the people I actually like get evicted, and the people I can't stand make it to F2. Should Dani go on Thursday, there is honestly no other person in the house right now that I want to see win.

Why do I torture myself so? Why can't I make myself stop watching? I don't even love to hate the rest of these people. I just hate them. A lot.

Yippee yippee joy joy.. Janie won the veto!!

Master Will has completely sold Erika on the idea of putting up the most pompous selfish coniving bitch on the show (I'm looking at you Dani)

The way I look at this show.. and have for most of it..
Dani vs Janie is the biggest contest.
I totally want Janie to wipe the floor with her because Dani has an overrated self important view of her BB greatness. Janie is more realistic about it, and would rather win a trip and a vespa then be named the BB allstar to end all allstars. but Dani has this neverending need to remind everyone that she is the most superior player ever in the BB history files. (she isnt) and I cannot wait to watch her cry when she is beaten by America's choice, the real super female of BB history.

Will.. is just going to coast and manipulate his way to the winners circle again..but it's Janie outlasting Dani that I watch for.

Well unless Erika decides she would rather have Dani watching her back then George, Dani is going this week.

I said Erika's original nominations should have been Will and Janie (actually I would have put up Mike and Janie, but Erika never would have) but she did exactly what I thought she would and now she's in a mess.

Erika might not know everything we know, but she was given enough information to know ahead of time that Janie wasn't going anywhere this week. Will told her he wanted Janie to stay. Dani told her she wanted Will gone. Erika should have known that either way, the voting blocks weren't going to evict Janie.

So she needed to set her eyes on a different target. That target is turning into Dani now. In my opinion, it should have always been Will. Dani might be close to unbeatable with the jury, but Will is too. And let's face it, about the only person Erika can beat is George so get people out of the house that won't take you to the final two (Will) - not someone who will (Dani).

I've thought Erika was worthless as a player for weeks now and her HoH isn't proving me wrong. She needs to at the very least get some very specific promises out of CT if she's going to give up Dani.

This season is becoming far too predictable and boring in my opinion. I would hope that Janie would do something great if she wins the next HoH, but I think she'll throw it so she can compete in the next one (which is far more important). Maybe George will win it and do something interesting like get rid of Mike or Will.

I think Erika's too chicken-shit to actually put Dani up, but I'm sure hoping she actually ends up doing just that...I'm sick of Dani's sanctimony, bullying and crocodile tears!!

As much as I don't like some of them, I hope to God that the winners of this show will be either Janelle, Will, Danielle or yes, even Boogie (however he's last out of those 4 that I wish to win). It would kill me if Erika or CG walked away with this money because they've had the shittiest gameplay out of anyone this season. I can't believe someone like CG has made it this far. I don't care what anyone says, floating is the most chicken shit way to win this game.

Boogie made a brillient point to Whorika last night. (brillient for those of us who want Dani gone like its her jawb) When she kept saying she would rather put up Will.. Boogs (after telling her NoNoNo 30 times) said to her.. So, you want to be a Kelly Clarkson and go solo then? (or at least thats what I read on the feed updates..sorry if that was someones personal joke cause its hard to tell sometimes) To that whorika said NOOOOOO.. So hopefully, that one little line sunk in with her. If she puts Will up.. Boogs is writing her off..

At one point, Erika might have been able to sacrifice George to keep Dani, but CT has made it really clear it's Dani they want gone this week. I doubt seriously Erika will go against CT so Dani will be up and gone.

But despite the fact that she's a chicken shit, if she doesn't have the votes to evict Will (Janie gave her no indication she would vote Will out) and she's unwilling to give up Mike (Janie hinted she might vote Mike out) and the only person she has any chance of beating is George, then she has to give up Dani. I just think it will probably cost Erika any chance she has of getting to the final 2.

If Erika didn't realize where she stood with CT when they were pushing her not to nominate Janie at all, she deserves the backstabbing that is coming her way.

And as much as I wanted to see Dani do better than 6th place, she helped slant this game in CT's favor in her LoD days. She should have seen the writing on the wall last week with James. This was her "win or go home" week and she lost plain and simple. I can't feel too bad for her considering she helped create the enviroment of CT dominance that is going on in that house right now. I just wish she had done something about it.

Now I just hope Janie makes it to the final 2 with someone she can beat (and she tells Will she's keeping her banana bread all to herself).

And I'm sick and tired of Danielle refusing to acknowledge that Janelle's a great physical competitor. She dismisses Janelle's wins as luck and never misses a chance to tell anyone who's listening that Janelle didn't earn her wins. She claims that POV's and HOH's were handed to Janelle, adding that she cheated on the doll POV and the redo was rigged in her favor. Seriously, she sounds as paranoid in her Janelle fixation as James. Yet, if she were asked about her wins would she admit that Erika handed her a HOH and both CT and James gave her a POV, (she never even lifted a finger for that win)? James also attempted to give her HOH when George won the prom comp. So how is she more worthy of winning this game when her only strategy occurs behind the scenes? If this is just a game and folks shouldn't take things so personal, she should have no problem with CT engineering her eviction and keeping Janelle in the game like it's their JAWB.

OMG OMG!! *JUMPS UP* I LOVE YOU GUYS!! The recaps were AWESOME! I'm so freakin' geeked JJ won the POV! YESSSSSSSSSSSSS........ *Phew - ok - deep breaths Rainy* eh ehmmm..... Oh boy Janey! Oh boy Howie -- Waddup Kaysar!?! I hope Erika listens to Janey. Take Danhell out now and go after Will next. CG is no threat for JJ. I think this is total payback to Danhell if she's kicked to the curb - dumb fool makin' allegances to LOD - Dumbass! Now that Erika knows he and Danhell teamed up durin' week 1?! HA Dumbass.

This show gets me so amped. You recappers get me so amped. I cannot wait. This is freakin' blowin' m'mind.

The next time JJ wins HOH - I hope she gets in all of their faces and says Now What? I would totally bring out the bitch in me. Janey shows so much self-control. That is EXACTLy why I wouldn't be able to do the show. Nope, couldn't do it. Especially with Christmas coming??!! sheeeit - I'd definitely be grabbin' up all the goodies - including the slop pass. hahaha - have to laugh at James with his lil' scrape - Cryin' HARM - FOUL - and Janey still had her act together - callin' him a jerk.. Big whoop!! I swear I'd be a drunken Dani screamin' at the top of my lungs tellin' him to get the eff off of me..

Also - I have to say ditto to seein' the shot of Janey's boob - 'cuz I didn't see nuttin' and never heard of such a thing. Plus, I never have seen a fake beeboo before. I'd be curious - don't blame the recapper for bein' curious. Ahhh No, I'm not even remotely queer. BTw, that reminds me.. does anyone remember last year when she was sunbathing and squeezin' 'em? hehehehe the soundman kept doin' a HONK HONK w/each squeeze.. hehehe

Ok well I definitely digressed on this one. LOVE this show and hope Danhell goes, then Will, Whorica, Boogtard- leavin' JJ and KG to F2. Orrrrrrrrrrrr better yet, let it be America's choice?!

ETA: Had to be a lil' more complete w/nicnames and such.

Rainesty - if your really that curious about fake boobs there is this thing on the internet, you may have heard of it. It's called porn. There's a lot of it out there, so I hear - particularly in the alt.binaries newsgroups. Not that I know first hand about this "porn" but I do hear things about it from time to time.

now, as for listening to Scrubika the Indescisive Stick - I actually think my dislike for her has surpassed my dislike for Dani. She doesn't have the same level and intensity of annoying personality traits but her inability to actually play the game and attempt to hide behind other people instead of doing her own dirty work has just increased exponentially. When your calling your arch-enemy (janelle) up to the room and asking her what she would do if she was you, then you don't belong in this game. Dani is annoying and all, but at least she can come up with some bs rationalization to do what she wants. Erica just wants to make sure everyone likes her and will take her to the final 2 where she will win because she hasn't created as many enemies. That's just lame. I personally think Chicken George has more strategy and gamesmanship going on at this point than Erica does.


p.s. - I'm sitting on 899 till I find something cool to recap for 900. Although, at this point, I guess that might mean I wouldn't get to recap again for a week or more so........

I understand Danielle has a lot of fans, and that's cool, but I guess I'm just too much of a know-it-all myself for her omniscience not to irritate me, and Jebus knows if there's anything worse than a know-it-all it's a drunk know-it-all. I know she's played the hell out of the game, but that's my last nerve she's fraying, so I say get rid of her now because she will definitely be hard to beat if she does make it into the final 2.

Booger disgusts me. I don't care what kind of a person he is outside the game, inside the game he's a sleazeball. All the hammies lie to one extent or another, but he's got such an edge that he seems really mean-spirited, as if it's not just a game to him, this is his chance to prove that he's as skilled as "the Evil Dr." I can just imagine what it's done to his ego over the years to be Igor to Will's Dr. Frankenstein.

Of course, it's not like Ericka didn't volunteer for the showmance (that word really gets on my nerves) and since Booger blatantly advertised his intentions she can't say he wasn't upfront about it, she just conveniently chose to overlook the clearly worded signs and has no one to blame but herself if she gets hurt. I want to like her, really I do...but gosh, she went from a J-Lo wannabe in that awful pink hat and sweats in her season to blending into the furniture this season. Grow some cojones, girl! (Ack! I can't believe I'm agreeing with Ivette on anything!).

Anyway, I'll wrap it up and say that as a Capricorn, I'm pulling for my fellow Capricorns Janelle and Will.

Zgeist - Hmmmm. Porn? Never heard of it. I'll have to look into that another day.