I was just watching the Weather Channel, (to see the progress of Hurricane Sequester), and saw Mike Sidel, then I pointed and shouted at the tv~ "He has a lisp!"

Yeah, my cats looked at me the same way, too.

Cabo is definitely in the hurricanes path. It's all the talk down here in So CA, that the cruise ships are either going to change their plans, or possibly dock in San Diego. Flights to the region are cancelled.

Not all of the WC was shown at 7:00 on Sunday. It must've been a local thing.

UPN doesn't replay what's on CBS here. Must be another local thing.

James on House Calls? I like it.

I can just see some poor HG coming on after trusting the wrong person or pulling a BB3Marcellas or something and James just shaking his head and saying "Dumbass."

The other hammies always complained that he was too game focused all the time, and this would give him ther perfect outlet to analyze everyone's strategy.

Any chance he could do it shirtless?

My UPN is not showing BB either *shakes Snoopy fist*

Awesome poll suggestion tooletta -I love seeing everyone's answers.

James would be great on Housecalls, if he could be prevented from going off on tangents about his BB seasons. He's great at analyzing other people's downfalls and strategy, he just sucks when it comes to his own.

I, for one, couldn't stand to listen to James talk for an hour at a time. I hate the way he fasttalks and the way he mumbles. He also can't keep his fingers out of his mouth for an hour at a time. I guess you can tell I'm not a James fan AT ALL.

I'm betting the sequestered hammies have been removed to another location, given the contents of this article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060831/wl_nm/...er_mexico_dc_23

The major concern would be the winds, especially all exposed and facing the ocean the way that Cabo Sequester House is. (hmm...Cabo Sequester House...that sounds like a PBS special).

Can you imagine Marcy and the White Robe of Vanity in a shelter? HA!

And as for the events of tonight, I'm curious to see what kind of HOH comp it will be--will TPTB slant it toward the skills of Jedi Janey or will they make it the ever-popular "crap shoot", not to be confused with the "Crap Chute" that is the Booger.

I don't think Will has actually thrown the last 2 comps, I just don't think those kinds of games are his forte...he's more of the mind game kind of guy...

Everybody seem thinks it is going to HOH -> VETO -> HOH. I think it is possible that the next competition wil be for the Coup d'etat instead and there wont be any need for VETO competition and ceremony since the holder of a Coup D'etat can replace the nominations any way. This will make sense in the 1 hours CBS schedule. I also think that BB would like to see the coup in play this ALL STARS season.
Just my thought.

I'm such a newbie that I forgot to write the reply.

Hi - I"ve been a member forever, but have been lurking. Just wanted to let you know that if you use the full screen or theatre feature you can make the the full size of your computer screen. Since you sit on top of your computer screen (and not your TV) that will give you the net effect of a relatively large screen TV.

PS, love you guys and your great discussions. I lurk because by the time I read your comments, you've already said it all.

Except that CBS put out a press release stating: "what normally plays out in one week, will play out in one hour, with the first ever live HOH, veto competition, nominations, veto meeting and double eviction taking place all in one hour of television on Thursday. Aug. 31 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT)".

Thanks ca_girl. I missed the press release.

From Koolaid Kid's news article..
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Ok, so who else is picturing Marci being caried away kicking and screeming by 4 very large very muscular Army guys. ''This is MY sequester house dammit! You can't do this to me! This is NOT fun this time around!''

Is there a reason the press release has the order out of the standard sequence? Ordinarily it's: HOH, nominations, veto competition, veto meeting, eviction (double in this case).

Or am I just reading too much into it?

Even though it says "what usually happens in a week will happen in one night", I wonder if there won't be a true HOH contest, per se. What they could do (not that BB's crack staff of contest makers would actually think of this) is have a timed puzzle or something like Survivor, and the last two to finish are automatically nominees. It's basically the same as a crapshoot HOH.

I'm sure it will turn out really, really lame, just like the rest of BB's "twists."

ManeAndTail how I love thee. I can close my eyes and see just that, bwah!! I'm one of the football pre-empted people so I'll be setting my alarm for 2:00 am. Can't go to CBS and watch because my speakers don't work, errrrrrr. I shall be one tired worker tomorrow morning, but I already know it will be worth it.

FYI: According to a post over at Jokers, which I verified with my TVGuide online link - the "Yes Dear" episode where Jimmy is one of the hammies in the BB house will air next Tuesday at 4pm on TBS. Other hammies are Robert, Amy, Lisa, Justin, Hardy, Alison, Will, Roddy, Michelle, Nathan, Marcellas, Jun, and of course, Chenbot. I saw bits and pieces of it once (not a regular "Yes Dear" watcher) and it looked like a hoot.

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Neither my home affiliate or my backup affiliate in Denver are carrying the show tonight!

Please spoil everything for me!

Im trying to figure out why Colorado Springs affiliate has Big Brother listed at 7 and the Game at 8 pm,(live?) and why it is preempted in Denver, pregame show for a preseason game?
Sorry Pookele , Im hoping the listing is right for my area

Is there a way to watch it on CBS without spoiling myself? And midnight what time zone? I love football, but this is a PRESEASON game. Argh.

This is from reality bbq...for all my HT compadres stuck watching pigskin at 8pm est...


2. Use Winamp to watch the show live - open Winamp and load the URL http://100mbit.ccenter-realitytv.net:8000/;file.nsv . If you have problems, visit this chatroom for help.

I'm not so saavy, so I can't figure it out...but gl!

DANG! I decided to go to school since BB was being pre-empted and I skipped class Tuesday to watch. Dang, dang, dang.

Thank you everyone for your suggestions on ways to watch the show.. I've passed the word along.. and hopefully, others will see it.
Then, I went shit.. what if...! and ran to my tv, checked the guide and 'I'm good'.

Twenty minutes to air and their server's already over capacity. DANG!

Did I mention that this is yet another reason that I HATE FRIGGIN FOOTBALL!!!!



Wasn't there some CBS O&O that broadcast on the web last year? Was it in Ohio?

try this list from wikipedia iCbs Affiliates

Someone refresh my memory, if they are down to 4, will Janey still have to sit out the next HOH competition?

Okay, so enlighten me BB experts. The next HOH will automatically make it to the f3. So do they all get to compete? Please, please cause that would give Janey one extra shot at this thing.

Does anybody have any idea if Janey will be able to participate in the HoH competition for this coming week because she was only HoH for around 45 minutes and didn't even get her pink palace back? *crosses fingers*

Moved from live feeds recaps thread -- Mags

Janelle cannot play for HOH next week, unless they've changed the rules.

At this point, regardless of who wins the HOH- she will go up. Her only chance to move on is to win the veto again. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

I SO wanted Erica to leave right after Danielle. Karma. Also because she's trying to be all self-rightious and it only works when Janelle does that. Erica just looks like a bitter whore.

And the only person Janelle can win against is Erica. MAYBE Boogie, but I doubt it b/c Will will influence the Jury.

Damn Damn Damn.

The problem is Janelle isn't wired to throw comps. She can't NOT compete. Even when it would have been most advantageous for her to do so like tonight.

What I don't get is why she wasn't better prepared to make her noms-everyone should be at this point. She should have just gone with her gut, she should have known Will would try to dissuade her.

Well that was another step in a very predictable season. Chilltown made their mission double date a success. Now the only thing to fight out is whose showmance goes to final 3.

Janie will not be able to compete. She'll have to rely on Veto to stay past Tuesday.

ETA: I don't know why Janie's loyalty to CT surprises me, but it does. I think we might end up with Mike and Will as the final 2 thanks to NO ONE going against them even though they have every reason to.

The more I think about it, the more I do realize Janelle didn't have much choice in this one. Every possible scenario ends up with Will or George leaving. With Will leaving, she'd have Erika and Boogie as a rock solid pair against her. With George leaving under different circumstances, she'd have hurt her position with CT. She kind of had to play nice. But all that said, I wish I felt that she'd thought through those scenarios and come to that conclusion, instead of what I know actually happened...she just did what Will told her to.

But yeah, in the end, I kind of have to admit that I mostly wanted her to nom Will just to prove her independence, when in reality it would not have helped her game even one bit. Whatever mindfucking is going on with him, he does at least want her in the game still, which is more than is true of Erika or Boogie.

I think perhaps she should have thrown this competition. Janie is in a constant state of "win or go home" but there is a reasonable chance that she would not have been nominated if one of the other guys won. It would have been a big risk, but it might have paid off down the road.

I just don't think Janie can beat Will in the final 2 if people vote on game play, I'm not sure she can beat Mike, and I don't see a situation where she goes to final 2 with Erika.

I somewhat agree - however, the jury members could think that, in spite of Will's manipulation, Janey still played a better game because she won HOH and Veto so many times. The only reason she is still there is because she won so many times. Given the chance, I suspect that Will would have voted Janelle out long ago. Well, more than suspect.....every time that she was up, Will and Boogie did not hesitate to include a scenario where Janie was voted out.

To my mind Will's manipulation (noms or whatever) was always in reaction to Janelle's winning HOH and POV. It's easy to take credit for "keeping Janelle in the game" by Will, but she kept herself in the game.

Will's 'claim to fame' was making every one else a target. Which is a good game plan too....

I don't know....I like Janey. Comparing this to Survivior, I'd have to say that Janey played a better game.

I think Janelle could beat Boogs in F2, but I'm not sure how they'd get there together.

If Janey won the right to pick her F2mate I honestly don't know who she'd pick. Obviously on a personal level she favors Will, but she has to know he's her only real competition.

Could be interesting.

Oh hell-she'll pick Will because he'll ask her nicely.

I just listened to Will and Booger talking privately with Janelle, followed by Will and Booger talking privately with Erika. I think they're more tight with Erika than Janelle. They're probably feeding both the women what they think they want to hear, but Will especially sounded more sincere about having to get Janelle out, going so far as to count jury votes. Their talk with Erika sounded more like something they had planned fro way in the beginning (of course, Janelle has only been used by Will since he could and she let him, and Erika came in as Booger's secret partner). Will still probably would like Janelle there to take him to F2, but Booger wants Erika.

I think the reason people won't be angry with Will for all of these machinations is because jury members will feel everyone is basically responsible for their own actions--free will, and all that. No one FORCED anyone to nominate a friend or alliancemate. They may have allowed themselves to be talked into it, but they alone made the decision. That's how I'd feel if I were on the jury, at any rate. If you're allowing yourself to be Will's patsy, that's your fault (Janelle).

Just for the fun of it, I'm keeping track of how predictable this is:



Well, I was mostly right so far. But, I didn't account for the PoV, so I'm just gonna say I was completely right. Just cuz.

So, according to my predictions, the next to go home will be Erika, and Boogie will be the one that has to nom his showmance.

Will and Janelle are just as awesome a couple as Rob and Amber. Or, Boogie and Krista. Or, Drew and Diane. Or, Will and Shannon. Or, Howie and Beau. I can't wait to see how the romance blossoms!

So, I'm trying to figure out the way things will go down with the next HOH. Assuming that Janey can't play for it, and Will won''t try for anything, I'd say that Will is in a good place right now to get to F3, wtih Boogie not far behind:

Erika wins HOH. Puts up Will and Janey.
Janey wins POV. Boogie goes up. Janey votes Boogie out.

Erika wins HOH. Puts up Will and Janey.
Erika or Boogie win POV. Mike votes out Janey

Erika wins HOH. She puts up Janey and Mike. Will votes out Janey.

Mike wins HOH. He puts up Erika and Janey.
Will votes out Erika.

Mike wins HOH. Puts up Janey and Erika.
Janey wins veto. Will goes up. Janey votes out Erika.

Mike wins HOH. He puts up Erika and Janey. Erika wins veto.
Will goes up. Erika votes Janey out <it could be Will?>

Mike wins HOH. Will and Janey go up. Erika votes out Janey <or Will?>

Does that look about right? If it does, Will is better off having Erika win HOH. I think he's already done the math and knows that. That's why he's seemingly leaning toward Erika right now, IMHO.

Since Janelle won't get to compete in the next HOH, my guess is she'll be next to get the boot, since she's virtually guanranteed to be nominated.

I like the predictions...

So far so good...although I think Dani would vote for Janelle at the end. James, although pissed at Janelle, may give her credit for winning as many times as she has. That's a toss up. And, then again, George could very well vote for "Dr. Will".

I would like to see these two in the F2 since they have played the best - using different tactics - but soooo much better than Boogie and Erica.

Never underestimate the power of a good veto.

Yes, by all means...a Janelle/Will final two would truly be 'All-STAR'!!!

Yes, Violetta, that's what I heard them puzzling through with Erika, which is why it sounded more genuine than the rah-rah talk they had with Janelle. Of course, they didn't discuss the final step, mostly all agreed that Janelle can't be allowed to win the next HOH (Is she even eligible? they seemed to think so.) Thanks for sharing your puzzlings!

The final HOH will probably be an endurance trial...and I think that if it's Will, Boogie and Erica in the F3 - Erica could beat both men.

Final odds:

WILL: This week, he needs Erika out. Why? Because she's the one that won't carry him to the end. She would take Boogie, or in his absence, she would probably prefer her chances against Janelle than against Will. He wants to be in the Drew seat, with Booger as his Cowturd and Janelle as the Diane, so that he'll be carried to the final two, and Janelle and Booger will fight over who gets to lose to him. Erika is the only one able or even remotely willing to take him out, but in order to do that, she has to win the final HOH and bounce him, or, if Boogie wins HOH tonight and Erika wins veto, be willing to vote out Will and keep Janelle. FINAL VERDICT: If he makes final two, he's golden. Basically, as long as Erika DOESN'T win the final HOH or manage to get him out, he's golden. Janelle has a slim, slim chance to beat him. Boogie probably couldn't, especially if he had to kick Erika to the curb to face Will in final two. Erika has a snowball's chance in hell.

JANELLE: IF she can win both veto AND the final HOH, she can win it all. But she has to, has to, win both competitions. No one will take her to the end, especially if Boogie remains in the game. She needs him out, and now. Possibly Erika would choose facing her over Will. Theoretically, in an alternate universe where Will doesn't throw HOH, he would choose her over Erika. In a final vote, she can beat Erika easily. She'd have Danielle, Howie, and Will. As long as James isn't willing to vote for Erika to spite her, she's fine. Actually, I think she's got a good shot at George's vote, too. Erika would have Marcellas and Boogie. Against Boogie, she'd need three of four of James, Danielle, George, and Marcellas to vote for her, along with a guaranteed vote from Howie, to win. Long shot, but not completely impossible. Against Will, I don't think she could get James to vote for her. She'd need all three of George, Marcellas, and Danielle to vote for her (or, I guess, Erika in place of one of those three). I don't see that as likely. FINAL VERDICT: She needs a miracle, but if anyone can work a miracle, it's her. If she can make it to the final two, she may earn some respect. However, if she chooses to face Will in the final, she gets what she deserves.

BOOGIE: He desperately needs Janelle out. She would NEVER take him to the end, and she's his strongest competition. Similarly, he'd never choose her over Erika or Will. Question is, though, can he keep Janelle from taking him out this week, and if he does manage to take Janelle out, is he going to be willing to throw Will under the bus and let Erika win final HOH? He has a better chance against her, surely? FINAL VERDICT: Does he want the money, or does he want to cheerfully settle for second place to Will figuring he'll get a nice slice of banana bread either way? If it came to it, is he going to toss Erika out faster than you can say Diane Henry, KNOWING that he'd lose to Will? We shall see. He definitely has the most to lose from Janelle's longevity in the game, though.

ERIKA: What's her priority? See, for her, either Will or Janelle going is a good thing. If Will goes, she's gotten rid of the best player, and she knows he has the most power and the least loyalty to her. Boogie will have to stick to her, and Janelle might like her chances with Erika over Boogie. I don't know if she can pull that off, but it remains that she's the one player who I don't see as taking Will to the final. However, if Janelle goes, the final HOH is probably going to her. Will throws HOH, naturally, and Boogie, I think, if he knew that his choices were winning HOH and taking (and losing to) Will and letting Erika win and send Will packing, might just let Erika have this one. FINAL VERDICT: It's kind of a moot point, because I really don't think she can win. Maybe she can swing James's vote and beat Janelle, and I think she'd get stomped by Will. Against Booger, she'd probably have George, Marcellas, and Howie's votes, but she'd struggle to get that fourth vote...

Thanks, Snooky! From what I remember, Janey should not be able to compete in the F4. I think the current HOH competing only kicks in at F3. I think Will isn't discussing end game right now because he's playing percentages and margins of error...which outs me as both a pro tennis loving geek and and in danger of understanidng Will Kirby.

I need therapy.

I absolutely agree, although I don't think Erica would go for a Will eviction, she'll go directly for Janie. I like how you didn't even consider a Will win.

This whole season has been a royal fuckeroo. If you had told me, at the beginning, that the hammies would let Will stay in the game this long, I would have said you were crazy.

I blame Kaysar the most for this fiasco. His strategy to keep Tool Town in the house as an alternate target was a huge mistake. If he did have an arrangement with Will, well, that makes him even more stupid.

The fact that anybody believed, at any point, that Will wanted to leave rather than staying, just proves how dumb these people are.

Then, various hammies, like Ericka, James, and Dani actually "teamed up" with Tool Town. How stupid are these people? Putting their trust in Will? Did they all have lobotomies before they went into the house?
Teaming up with Tool Town instead of voting them out... yeah, there's a plan! So they help Tool Town with the numbers, then they walk out the door. One after the other. Like brainless lemmings.

Every time I heard somebody say, "I trust Chill Town more than I trust __________," I thought I was going to have an aneurysm.

As for Janelle, she has only lasted this long because Will firmly believes that he can control her. If he didn't think that, she would have been gone by now, too.

So, Will will probably win. I hate to say this, but he deserves to. I don't want him to, that's for sure. I hate him. But he has played all these people and they let him. These stupid, stupid hammies actually got sucked in by the man who is known for being a lying manipulator.

Jeez... even James and Dani. Fooled by the KNOWN puppetmaster. The guy everybody knows is a lying scumbag who will turn on you in a heartbeat. I just cannot... get... over... the... stupidity.

Guess it is a short bus, after all.

I was just wondering if anyone had any news on Hurricane John and if they've evacuated. I told my friend I need to turn on the Weather Channel and watch for a group of guys clutching a robe, a light saber and a doll.

edited to talk about more stuff

I just realized that the KFColonel was actually on the show last night and not some horrible dream. That had to be one of the stupidest things I"ve ever seen.

Speaking of which, I was at the store last night, and I looked up to see someone in a chicken suit pushing a cart through the produce section. I gave a little audible scream and ran like a madwoman to the checkout.

Erika couldn't win against Boogie in F2-there is no possible fourth vote (assuming she has Georgie, Howie and Marci)

Will-votes for Boogie no question
James-thought she was furniture
Janelle-has always hated her, won't vote for a woman
Danielle-may have been able to swallow her anger enough to vote Erika over CG under the "better player" umbrella, but this would allow her to stick it E and still claim she didn't vote personal.


Erika is playing for the 50Gs at this point and she just sent her best chance to get even that far out to sequester.

I totally agree. Kaysar definately set this ball in motion, but James and Dani could have derailed it at some point if they too weren't stupid enough to team up with CT. Morons. All of them.

Well Mike is HoH and definately in the final 3. Who would have thought? Not only did these idiots never take out Will, they never even took out his buttmonkey? All that means is that these "All-Stars" weren't even as good as the season two cast!

Anyway, Mike is HoH. Janie and Erika will surely be nominated. CT will have a 50% chance to win Veto so odds are very good they will both stay in the game. But let's just go over the scenerios...

Erika wins Veto, Will goes up, she might vote Will out. If she did, she might earn a little bit of respect from the jury. In final 3, she can probably win the endurance part. If she loses the other parts, Mike should pick her over Janie. Janie should pick her over Mike (though I'm not sure she knows it). The only reason I could see her evicting Janie is because she might think she'd have a better chance of winning the last HoH against Mike and Will.

If Janie wins Veto, Will goes up. Now I would love to think Janie has it in her to evict Will. It makes so much sense. She'd have a small chance to beat Mike with the jury and a real decent chance of beating Erika. She might lose an edurance contest to Erika, but she could probably beat Erika in the other two parts. But there is a part of me that knows Janie won't do it. So if Janie wins Veto, Erika goes. Sigh.

Erika and Janie really need to have a damn talk without the boys sometime soon.

Erika and Janey are just as stupid as all of the other hamsters that CT has taken out. Last week Erika could have teamed up with Dani and Janie. She even thought about putting Will up. What does she do? "Gosh, I'm so confused! Dani promised me F2 and I love her...but thinking is so hard! Oh, let's just go with Will's plan."

Then last night at F5 Janey could have put CT up and one of them would have been out. She wanted to put up Boogie and Erika, I think (that would have been half right). But, while all the other HG's were shell shocked by the fast forward and Janey was wigging out, Will calmly stands there (on live TV!) and repeats over and over "Erika and George". And Janey, like a good moron, complies.

Then Janey is forced to put Boogie on the mac. But Erika votes out George instead of she and Janey taking out Mike.

Erika and Janie are STILL counting on thier respective showmance guy to take them to the F2. Why? Have Will and Boogie been disloyal to each other at any time during the game? No!

Maybe if things go her way and Erika gets POV, she'll be smart enough to send Will home. But I kind of doubt it, because her game play has been so stupid. And Janey? Her current game plan seems to be keep Will in the game. Will!

Before the show started, Will said Janey was "most likely to fall in love with him". Will knew full well that Janey and Erika play BB the same way...find an alpha male (or in Janey's case two) and stay loyal until the end. This F4 is exactly what Will wanted. This is the show that Will wanted to make before the game even began. And the other idiot hamsters handed it to him on a silver platter.