I'm invisioning this going similarly to when Boogie saw the previous houseguests "ghosts" behind the bathroom mirrors. Throwing Marci out of the way, running and letting out a girly scream! *snicker*

You guys, that would be true DOOG TV...Booger screaming and running around, Marcy fainting, and Howie going BUSTO all over the sequester house. I would definitely pay to see that!

Alas, "it is what it is", and we are stuck with what's left in the house, which unfortunately includes an un-terrorized Booger. Bring on America's Eviction Choice!

Did you all catch the last few seconds of the show- when everyone was celebrating Booger's win- Will was gently wiping the pie off of Janelle's face with an actual sincere look on his face. And with the latest discussion in the HOH room basically outing their feelings for each other! Oh my Now THATS good TV!

I have to say, since the latest betrayal of Janey by Willboogie, I'm loving her a lot more. I mean, before I was loving her but disgusted by the puppy dog act. But now when she talks to Will, she's got her spice back. To me at least, watching the flirting going on between them, there's a definite edge to it all, which was lacking before.

Like, Janey is still attracted to him, but he's no longer completely in the drivers seat.

ETA: Ok...so, last year, I was so pulling for the Kaysar/Janelle romance, because those two interacted so well, and it really was kind of fairytale-ish in a way. Two different worlds, them against the house, you know. So I'm a romantic at heart, shut up.

Anyway, now I'm watching Will and Janey jog together, and she says she hasn't looked this bad in years, and he's like "Shut up. Take it back. Take it back." and god help me, I'm doing it again. Dark evil doctor and the pretty but capable princess. I know. I'm a delusional retarded romantic. Shut up.

Yeah, and it was a perfect vehicle for foreshadowing what will happen on Tuesday's show. I bet a few seconds before that Will was telling the camera guys "Make sure you get this shot". I like Will, but I can't believe he does anything sincerely.

Re: Booger & Will Having Different Endgame Agendas

I have a theory about why this split exists but is never talked about or explained. Will wants to keep Janelle because of the numbers. At the moment, Dani's "team" has four members, and CT are only two strong. Dani's never had to sacrifice anybody to prove she's with CT, but Janelle has actually taken those risks and lost... which not only isolates her totally (leaving her choiceless), but also indicates that she really is as good as her word, even if it was only given because she's been easy to manipulate. Unlike Janelle, Danielle has three options beyond CT, which means she can bend with the wind if need be without ever losing every ally. Much less reliable in theory, even if she'd turn out to be reliable in practice. Plus, Will has spent a ton of time with Janelle, and thus has developed a gruding respect for her gameplay (and a thimble-full of genuine affection for her, too, I think). Even if he's laughing all the way to the bank in three weeks, he'll never deny that she earned her way to the final six in a way that no other player can claim. This, too makes her a valuable asset, because having a great player who wins shit on your side automatically ups the possibility that you'll be protected.

Booger is less enthusiastic about keeping Janey because a) he almost certainly hates her guts, and b) he's tied to Danielle in a way that makes him too scared to directly target her. If you listen carefully to his private strat talks with Will, you'll notice that he always makes a point of saying that he "trusts Dani above all others". Why? Because she's a fierce competitor or "the best player ever to lose BB" or a motherly figure whose morals would preclude her from backstabbing him? Hell, no. He trusts Dani because he knows that she never spilled the truth to Janelle about his psychotic "pirate cunt whore gonna crush her fuckin' dream and fuckin' kill that bitch when we get outta here" meltdown way back in Week 3 (or so... definitely during James's HoH). Anyway, Booger knows Dani kept mum, because there's no other rational explanation for why Janelle would have had anything whatsoever to do with him (or Will) except that she's never been told about the full extent of his tirade. Danielle covered it up, and so did CBS (nice... they covered for Jase, too, then edited "rap night" as if it was adorable fun).

This is why I still root for Janelle, even though I've been appalled and disgusted by her embrace of CT for weeks and weeks on end. She doesn't know what she's dealing with, because people who could have warned her didn't bother to tell her the truth. Accordingly, this is why I will never root for Dani. I don't mind that she's devious or that she's been "secretly" allied with everybody in there except for Janelle and Howie. I don't even mind that she's so oppressively boring to listen to (well, okay... maybe just a lot). What I do mind is that she spent the first three weeks blathering on about "coming back for REDEMPTION", but when the opportunity arose for her to do the right thing as a human being (and a female human being in particular), she chose to remain silent because she saw an advantage for herself in covering for Booger. I saw his meltdown live, and I can only say that any woman who could sit there silently listening and comforting him and then letting him slide has zero interest in redemption. Though I will say this much in Danielle's defense: at least she didn't squeal with delight and egg him on. That job was already being done by Diane.

It was only a few days later when Janelle got her 2nd HoH, and though Dani spent the following month justifying her venom against S6 & Janey by whining that "they didn't take out CT when they could have!", she knew damn well that she had the information necessary to make Janelle nominate them but chose not to share it. Of course, the decent thing to do would have been to tell her right away (before HoH) so that she could be aware of a potential problem and protect herself from a virulently misogynist creep. But, no. Danielle cared more about protecting Booger, because she recognized that Janelle would always be a bigger target to him than Danielle, and thus he was an asset to her game. Plus, she'd have dirt to hold over his head without ever once having to threaten him. Meanwhile, she sits on the sidelines and tut-tuts at Janelle for being too foolish to recognize that CT is mocking and baiting her under the guise of befriending her. That way, Dani gets to come off as "caring" or concerned to all within earshot, while all the time knowing that Janey's ignorance isn't entirely of her own making. For this reason alone, Danielle makes me sick. I don't envy her trying to figure out how to explain it to Janelle after the game, but then... if she can work up sufficient resentment toward her between now and then, she probably won't feel as if she has to. After all, Danielle's just doing this for her daughter!

Anyway, that's my take on Will's and Booger's positions... and why their endgame strategy feels more dissonant and mysterious than it reasonably ought to be. You can tell that Will is concerned about "the incident" too, because he pleads with Janelle not to be upset about Booger's "bad behavior" at least once a week, asking her to believe him when he says that the REAL Booger "has a great heart". Janelle never responds in any significant way, because she has no idea why this should be anything resembling a major issue. I'm sure the Doctor has figured out by now that she's still in the dark, but can't help trying to soften the blow now so she'll forgive him when she eventually finds out what really happened that night.

Yes, Janelle has actively, foolishly worked to protect CT in the game, but their longevity owes more to Danielle's silence than to Janelle's gullibility. If and when they make it to the finale and take home the cash, it'll have been on Danielle's shoulders, but at Janelle's expense. Janelle will take the blame and be subjected to the humiliation of having unknowingly helped a pig like Booger make a fool of her. Too bad so few will remember that Danielle had first-hand knowledge of how vile and pathetic he is, and reacted to that knowledge not with disgust, but by cementing her decision to protect him and help him get to the end. Win or lose that money, she'll get no Redemptioncakes from this viewer.

I was braced for some bad scene, and my biggest impression was an angry Howie being attacked by a screaming rabid chihuahua who was only making it worse. What an immature brat. He tried to call Howie out for not being a good sport, but was doing it himself. Besides, I hate that fugly hat. Is he trying to be a target for a wayward hunter's bullet?

Superbowl, I love your idea! That would rock, and it would thin the herd with the reduced season, too.

Boobie would clap himself to death.

Lots of stuff to catch up on!!



I was almost waiting for some soft, romantic music while DrWill was taking care of his little JaneyWaney.
I hope so much for Janey getting a clue, that I'm beginning to feel like Charlie Brown having faith that Lucy will hold the football in place--just this once--. He hopes and hopes........and the bitch always pulls the ball away at the last minute, and good ol' Charlie Brown falls flat on his ass!
Good ol' FMC is gonna fall flat on her ass if Janey doesn't wake to fuck up!
(I'm not caught up on the recaps, so maybe she has a clue by now!? Sigh. I should probably just start padding my pajama pants with soft stuff so the fall doesn't hurt so much.)

Dani and Erica were *beyond* stupid for celebrating so hard after Boogie's HOH win! They just blew their SSAs. And those 2 have the nerve to bitch about how much Janey and Howie celebrated. WTF? I hate. Hate. HATE that shit!
Hopefully, Janey saw that HER SSA with CT is jeopardized since Dani and Erica went nuts over Boogie's win. And.... hopefully Erica and Dani each saw how the other reacted to Boogie's win. Dani should be thinking "Why is Erica so excited?" And Erica should be thining (er, 'thinking') "Why is Dani so excited?".

Also......after Boogie's win.......did you catch Dani playfully slam a chocolate pie into Boogie's face! HAHAHAHA!
Great!





Well said. Will does do an excellent job. Kudos to him. He's got EVERYONE in the house protecting him.
CT, LOD, CT+Janey, CT+littletownErica.......
Why do you think Will told CG that he could him up? Will felt safe!
Plus.....since Will would have been nominated along with Erica.......that would have been a great way to get Erica (Boogie's parachute ally) voted out, so then they'd have to rely more on Will's parachute ally, Janey.
Great way to play. Everyone will keep Will because they fear losing him as their own personal Super Secret Ally. Awesome.




Hmmm, interesting. I wouldn't have thought that Boogie would view that as a reason for trusting Dani, or even keeping her out of fear of being blackmailed. It never occured to me. I wonder if he does think that?



Again, well put. Beautifully put, actually. I would be naueous if I were Janey and found out I'd been allies with a pig like Boogie who did that humiliating rap.
On the better note, that cruel rap speaks more of Boogie's crappy character, poor sportsmanship, crudeness, vindictiveness, and immaturity than of Janey's character.
It just makes Boogie look bad.

Personally, I detest the use of the 'c' word. I don't know if Dani hates that in Real Life, also......... but if she hates that kind of crudeness......
then she should have told Boogie to "Kindly, fuck off. Or just fuck off."
If she's cool with that crap, it saddens me. (and that goes for ANY of the hammies, male or female, that heard The Rap, or even heard OF it, second hand).

And, if they weren't not cool with Boogie's rap shit....BUT they were too chicken shit or stoopid to take a stand and say something....(anything!)...... because of alliances, money, fear, TV, stupidity etc........
Well, then, I guess the world isn't perfect and the way that *I* want it to be.

I will stomp off declaring the world is against me!!
I will hunt them down, and make their lives a living hell!!
I will call them ALL cheaters, whores, liars, attention-seekers, drama queens, fakers, hypocrites, soulless monsters, martyrs, wanna-be's, gold diggers, and just plain old "selfish" (because they're not doing what *I* want! Bastards.)

Or maybe I'll just speak my peace and be done with it.

Now, where's my damn coffee??

Great post Danak!!! I do think that's why I haven't fallen off the Janey bus....she doesn't know the full extent of what/who she's dealing with and the rest do, and no one stepped up. She's even more alone in that house than she thinks.

I too am still rooting for Janelle even though she's has no chance of making it much further. And Will, I can begrudgingly respect his game even though I don't want him to win because 1) He's won before and 2) he's aligned with Mike. I fully expect him, if they make it to final 2, to campaign for Mike to win because he's playing the game for Mike and he doesn't need the money. Mike is golden and it makes me sick.

Danielle--I really really loved her in Season 3 but she's been a major disappointment to me this time around. If she'd just remembered that this time the jury won't be viewing the DR's she could have kept all the nasty and snide remarks to herself and been good to go.

George & Erika--neither has game and I wish they weren't there. George, I'm sure, is a decent man who loves his family but is just not cut out for this type of cutthroat game. Erika, I never liked her the first time and she's even more disgusting this time.

James--is a whiny bitch, no? I hope to hell he does DOR (It seems like that's why he keeps wanting to look at the contract to make sure he doesn't lose any of the money coming his way.) But his temper tantrums are childish and boring. God, I hope he's gone this week.

Dani wants a private convo with Janelle, I think she wants to lay it all on the line. I have a feeling this will be included in the whole thing and it will turn everything around and just may get Dani and Janie together to take out Will and Boogie, if Janie believes it. Will has told Janie over and over and over that Dani is honest, so I'm hoping that seed will be the catalyst for an endgame alliance.

In my opinion, nothing would be better than a Dani/Janie final 2 alliance. I would love to see the two of them pair up.

Dani might be annoying this season, but the lady is still smart. She knows James is digging his own damn grave this week. She needs a new ally since Erika and George are useless (I look forward to them leaving).

From reading the recaps, Janie seems to have a little bit of edge back but she still really likes Will. Dani is going to have to be very careful if she wants to pair up with Janie. I think she's going to have to sell it as a Will/Janie/Dani final 3 and then fight like crazy to win the final HoH. But I think Dani is going to need to win HoH next to get Janie to listen to her.

I think Janey trusting Dani at this point would be worse than Janey trusting Will. If it's not obvious to her that Danielle's been after from the get go, and can't be trusted, then she truly is gullible. I honestly just don't see it.

On another note, I watched the strat talk between Janelle, Boobie, and Will yesterday, and noticed they made the same mistake with Janey that she made with them-- made a lopsided deal with her in which they promised a lot, but asked for very little in return. They promised F3 protection for her, with Will promising that he would go first if any of the three of them were threatened-- all Janey had to do was commit to voting James out over Chicken George, hardly a major sacrifice.

What was funny was watching them twist themselves into knots trying to convince her to vote out James-- I couldn't tell if what she was doing was calculated, but it was masterful. Almost Willish.

I love the idea of an America's Choice to get Boogie out of the house. For a while I was buying it that he's made a success of himself with the businesses, etc. but in the end, the guy is a scumbag.

I would so love to see Janey turn the mindf*ck back on Will and his Buttmonkey!! I don't know if she has it in her, but dayum that would be doog tv!!!

If and when Boogtard gets to sequester, my beefcake Howie had best go busto n his skanky ass! I pray we're all privy to seeing it. I'm so sick of his attitude, along with James - BB better get a handle on his whiney ass, or they will be in for a lawsuit, you know James is gonna go for it. AT least my crystal ball says he will.

UGH - can America vote out Danhell's fugly robe, too? NOW that would be a SUPERBOWL BABaaY!!

JJ - aka JediJaney - I love you girl, so hurry and put the smack down on James first, then Boogtard!! What would be great for me is JJ vs. Whorika? Nahh, she's too flippin' boring. Ok - F2 Wil vs. JJ ;)

I disagree. I think Dani is much more trustworthy than Will.

But thinking about Dani's best move - she can't deal with Janie yet. If Dani wants CT broken up (and she should after James's eviction) she has to nominate Janie and Mike. Will will throw veto. If Mike wins veto - put Will up. Janie goes. If Janie wins veto, put Will up. Mike goes.

If Dani tried to make Janie a deal, Janie could win veto, take Will off, and then they vote to keep Mike. That leaves Dani alone with Erika or George as an ally. She can't make Janie a deal at this point.

I do think Janey's only hope at all of winning this thing is a bold move, such as teaming up with Dani, and even then her chances are slimmer than Chairika.

Ha! Arnold Shapiro is on HouseCalls today to address the "RIGGED" comments and phone calls he gets from viewers.

From what I have seen in Season 3 and 7, Danielle is one of the few people who consistently keeps her word. She doesn't keep it 100% of the time, but she does so as much as humanly possible. If Dani makes a promise to you, there's a 99% chance she's going to follow through unless backed into a very difficult corner. She may have alliances and understandings, but if she hasn't promised you something, than you can't expect anything. She's got an alliance with Will and Boogie, but has she promised never to nominate them and/or vote them out? But, what if she makes a promise to Janelle? She will follow through, I have no doubt about it.

Conversely, I think Danielle is the one who needs to be worried about anything that Janelle says. Janelle is much more likely to go back on her word or get woo'd by a certain someone, or be convinced to do something she agreed not to do. Again, I only look at past examples to come to my conclusion.

Danielle's promises that she's kept include Jason, George, and even though she voted off Marcellas, she only did it because she knew there was no way she could save him.

Janelle's promise to Marcellas didn't exactly get upheld when she nominated him. I have no doubt she'd have any problem putting up George. She outright lied to her alliance after telling Howie what to do in the veto competition.

I mean, you put the two women together, and Danielle has a much higher rate of pulling through on what she's says she is going to do.

BitchyHeather had posted some YouTube clips from BB1 in another thread, which is now locked. I just wanted to say thanks...and to remind any of you who hadn't watched this show from the beginning what it used to be.

It wasnt a bunch of TV-Pretty youth-oriented types. It was a very diverse group. You saw more of them, and you started to really be drawn into it. You didn't really love anyone, but you knew who to hate. And, viewers voted for evictions. I really wish it would go back to that.

It was more of an enclosed microcosm, with the animals and such. The HG were given something to care for and care about. Not just stare at each other and plot and get bittercakes over crap for days at a stretch between broadcast shows. BB1 moved faster - it may have taken the same amount of time, but it moved.

So many differences.

And damn, I miss the banners too!

Edited to add: Damn, I miss the banners too!

God help me, I've been drinking the Kool-Aid too. There's this part of my brain that keeps whispering that maybe Will really does care about Janey. Even though I know what he is like. And I'm just seeing the broadcasts and reading the recaps. Honestly, what chance does poor Janey have, what with being in constant contact? Do you think it's pheromones or what?

Ugh, gotta go drink some pickle juice or whatever the antidote might be for Kool-Aid.

I really hope that Janie never ever accepts a deal with Dani the debbil.. too much has happened for her to redeem herself to the Jedi doll. IMO, Janie's best move is to take Will and Boogs to the f3. She can kick both their asses in the final HOH comp.. then choose Boogs who has lied to just about everyone for f2. No way are Howie and Marci voting for that guy no matter how many lies James spews. Dani respects her game play, and hopfully, this weeks vote ends in a tie that Boogs has to break to send out James.. On his way to sequester, James will be offered a check to STFU.. and he'll vote Janie over Boogs. Thats 4..


You'd throw lead into the ocean?

There's no reason either Dani or Janelle should trust the other, which is why I think a deal is kind of unrealistic. Dani's been after Janelle since she got there, so I don't think Janelle owes her anything, especially trust.

I'm kind of surprised Dani is even considering it, but I suppose it's worth a shot, from her perspective. I just don't see Janey doing anything more than politely humoring her.

I'd like to think Janie could beat Mike, but if Will goes to sequester to work his magic....I think we could end up with a Booger win. Then this site gets shut down! That would suck.

ETA: Thinking about this more...

Mike gets Will and Erika easily.
Janie gets Howie and probably George (since America likes her).

That leaves James, Marci and Dani as the deciding votes.

If James is still nursing this Janie stole my doll bitchfest, he'll vote for Mike. He should be pissed at Mike and Will for evicting him this week, but who knows how he'll spin that in his head.

Marci should be mad at both CT and Janie. But I think in the end, he'll probably blame Janie for trusting CT to begin with.

Dani respects Janie but I don't know if she'll vote for her.

This could be a close one.

Janey could actually pull a CT on Danielle. She could make Danielle think she's ok with the deal that Danielle is offering, and if Will or Janey doesn't win HOH next week, then Janey has it made for one more week with Danielle if Danielle believes that she and Janey are playing together. This could work out really well for Janelle. I'd never want to align myself with Danielle, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

ETA: When James goes this week, if Danielle asks Janelle why she voted him out, she has a lot of options about what to give as the reasoning behind it. She can use her relationship/alliance with James to spin all kinds of yarns about why she did what she did. Janelle could really change this game up if she plays her cards right.

I am going to really upset of james is still there Thursday Night!

I have been thinking about it and I think that Will does want to win, does not make as much as Boogie and is hoping someone will put up Boogie so he doesn't have to. He went to George alone that night without asking Booger. He is lobbying for Janey who may be more gullible than Dani but who is a better player than Dani (yeas, she will take the cut and Dani will not). Janey is also a sure vote for him. Even though they are in an open alliance, they are spending less and less time together. He called Boogie "A bit power crazy" the other night to Janey. Just nudging him to the bus stop, I think. Boogie and Will have asked Dani to convince the other. I know that they have referred people they are lying to to the other in the past as a stalling tactic, but this was when they had hit impasses or could not convince the other. I want them to slowly dissolve. As it is, Will is smarter and is a bigger target, but I think that there is a tiny crack in their alliance. Could be wishful thinking.

Also, and I am aware I am obsessed with Boogie (I can't help it, he is so throughly unlikable. I'll admit it, I would do George first) but, he hasn't spoken to any one about the exact instant when he spilled too much information, has he? I don't think so and I think it is deliberate because the instant was when he threatened Georgie before the nomination and it influenced his decision to nominate Howie. To me, that is a little more than crooked if BB didn't address it. How could they in a season riddled with The Fix? What's strange to me is that Will didn't even ask which instance or when.

Finally, on Will and Janelle. I think she passed a test today by telling them about Dani's offer. If Dani does not do the same, they can know they trusted the right person. I hope Jamesy Wamesy uses his special investigative technique in sequester again to know that Dani screwed him over.

Personally, I would like to see Will, Dani and Janie in the final three. From there, I don't care who wins. You've got manipulator, manueverer and competitor - battle royale.

From what I read, Dani told Will she was going to offer the deal to Janie before she did it. He urged her on. Janie told them afterwards and they told her to go take it.

I'm a little confused by their enthusiasm over this truce - real or fake. I can't believe Will intends to finally step up and win an HoH. Mike can't compete this week. Perhaps they just want to use Dani and Janie to get rid of George and Erika? Maybe they think Dani will tarnish herself with the jury if she deals with Janie?

I don't know. I just hope Dani can get Will or Mike out of that house. I don't care which one at this point.

I think their enthusiasm for the truce is them thinking it simply ups the odds on Danielle not trying all that hard in HoH if she thinks she's safe with Janelle. Which ironically, I think is also the only reason Danielle offered the truce...she was fishing with Will to find out if he thought Janelle would go for HoH if she thought she was safe. Neither Danielle nor Janelle has any intention of keeping it. Danielle's still planning on backdooring Janelle. And Janelle could barely look Danielle in the eye when she accepted that truce. But really, Janelle would be smart to give the appearance of honoring it. If she wins HoH, she should give Danielle a free week and go after Boogie/Erika. She could claim Boogie's the pawn, and neither he nor Will can really hold it against her after they dumped her allies and put her up this week. Then whichever goes, Janelle's greatly improved her position in the house. Either she and Will make up a new pair, or she settles CT's "Erika or Janelle?" argument for them. And I agree with wickedtong that Will may be looking for a way to dump Boogie. I have a feeling that's the cryptic thing he was saying to her in HoH last night. He asked for Boogie to give them a minute then laid that whole "I don't want to say it, but I hope you're getting it" spiel on her...I really think it was that his "I'm just getting Boogie to the F2, then working the jury" was as much a load of bull as his "I have to get out of here before sequester" was. I think he wants to win and that he's not going to be sacrificing anything for Boogie from this point on.

Oh yeah! It's ALL an act - but it's brilliant because it protects Will's pride if he doesn't win. And more importantly it takes the target off his back. And since it's only been a help to Boogie, how could Boogie not love the plan?

The whole thing works for both Will and Boogie - it makes Boogie look loved and Will look cool - and it's allowed them both to stay in the game longer than any other same-season alliance. Brilliant!

I'll cosign that.

I think that Danielle's plan to offer a truce with Janelle stems from one little idea that popped into her head, the plan that I am sure occurred to Will at some point last week: Janelle, although a FIERCE competitor in the short term, is not a major threat in the final two. She doesn't have the votes. Possibly against George she could squeak out the vote, and maybe she could beat Erika with a little luck. Against Will, Mike, James, or Danielle, she seemingly loses for sure.

FROM LIVE FEEDS:



OPINION:

Hey, I'm a first time poster. Couldn't it be that this Brady Bunch scenario isn't just some random story they're making up, but really code that Will and Janie don't want the internet to know about? Janelle's wicked step-sisters are all against her. They're hanging out in the same house. They don't know they've got a 'connection' (romantic or otherwise), but they are. It just so happens that fate/convenience/whatever you like, 'put them together' and made them more comfortable with each other, and that comfort plus the alcohol (letting their guards down) brought an attraction.

He asks her to take over. She asks if he has any friends, Will starts over. Janey's friends come over and Will hits on the super-hot friend. I'm not sure who this might be (someone he made an alliance with; maybe James because they're in the LOD, maybe James because they put James and Janelle on the block), but then all Janey's friends leave, and Janey makes an overture that she's curious about Will, or might want to allign with him. Janey asks Will to kiss her. Will's curious. They "kiss".

So two weeks go by, but then Janey knocks on his door and asks to sleep with him. (What event was this in game play? The Marcy thing was when she first was 'in bed' with Chilltown, wasn't it? It could be something else, it's freakin' late.) They get in bed together. They take care of each other, it's awesome. Maybe the Sadie Hawkins Dance is F2, maybe Eviction, maybe POV. But either way, it sounds like Will's saying someone who has no sexual attraction to him is asking him to the 'dance'. Will's accepting and taking that person as a cover so that he can be with Janey at the 'dance' . Maybe he's talking F4? I don't know. Anyway, just a thought! See what ya'll think.

I think the jury would be stupid to vote for Mike or James over Janelle. In my opinion, neither has done much in the game but hide behind Will & Danielle.

ETA: That's not saying they won't do it -- just that I think it would be a poor decision.

I agree that it would be a poor decision but often the jury has a big dose of pity when they are voting in the end. It often ends up a case of "who do I hate the least" not "who deserves this the best."

Anyone see Housecalls this week?

Shapiro is the guest. He addresses rumors of the game being rigged, Boog coup power loss, FLAMES, and other fun stuff.


eta~ click on the "new today" tab near the top for the newest ep.

I'll post a recap shortly, hab

toolletta--could you or someone else nutshell Arnold's appearance because I can't get the damn thing to play. Muchos gracias, mi amiga.

Actually I don't think James or Mike have hidden at all. In fact, I don't consider "hiding" a bad strategy or one that shouldn't be rewarded. After all, I think Will ducks for cover all the time - and he does it very well.

Let's look at James for a minute. He choose to play the double agent in this game. He did it very poorly. If he had been good at hiding behind Dani, S6 would have never known about them. On top of not being as good of an actor as he think he is, people won't necessarily reward his whiney, bitchy attitude. I don't think Janie has to worry about him though because I think he's done this week.

*My personal opinion is that if James didn't really want to be with the Sovs he should have told them "I'll work with you (won't nominate you, won't vote you out) if you want to work with me, but I won't make a final four promise because we're too big of targets for that." Then he would have been free to work with Dani without looking like a snake.

Ok now let's look at Mike. He's actually been cover for Will if you think about it. Sure Will is the brains of the operation, but Mike gets the negative attention. Mike wins the coup, wins the HoH, bullies people, does the nasty raps, etc... Will volunteers to be nominated, befriends the enemy, talks about money splits. Mike is the cliche bad cop to Will's good cop.

I do think Janie should beat Mike if she was up against him in the final two. But I don't know that she would. A lot depends on what happens in the sequester house and if Will is able to influence the outcome.

Yesterday on Housecalls:

Gretchen and guest host Bunky welcome Arnold Shaprio to the show.

Arnold gets right to it. He says he loves housecalls and wants to address a couple of things.

He says he gets a lot of complaints about the feeds being blocked at times. He says that it is the producer's goal to show as much as possible. They do block it during comps, during singing, during defamatory remarks, or inappropriate behavior. He mentions the Flame Button Guy, who's sole purpose is to block the feeds only when absolutely necessary.

Arnold's point? Stop calling, stop emailing, and stop whining about it.

Another issue Arnold has is with all of the negative feedback he's getting over the HOH comp re-do and with Boog and his special coup power.

Arnie says it's okay to have an opinion, but he's offended by the accusations that the game is rigged. He looks directly into the camera and asserts that BB is not rigged, never has been, never will be. Says he takes it as a personal insult that people think the producers fix the game and play favorites. Calls himself ethical and honest.

Says all of their decisions are handled very carefully with attorneys, cameras, etc. They have to err on the side of what's most fair.

Arnold's point? Stop calling, stop emailing, stop whining about it.


He's done venting at this point and they are ready to take some calls from viewers.

The first caller asks if there will be cameras in sequester. Short answer? No way. This caller watches the feeds 5-6 hours a day.

Gretchen admits to falling asleep, listening to the hamsters conversations. Bunky admits not having the feeds, because he's afraid he'd become addicted.

The second caller wants to talk about Boog threatening CG with his special power. He's upset that CG didn't call Boog out on the blackmail. Bunky is mad that Howie didn't speak up when he had the chance.

Third caller admits to emailing CBS about the HOH-redo. She thanks Arnie for coming on to straighten things out. Arnold says his mother is still alive and would kill him if he rigged the show.

Talk about the challenges of making the show. There are a dozen editors who work on it. They are constantly working to make a show. They have the largest staff of any reality show, employing over 200 people.

Gretchen shows us a peek of inside the house at the present time. It's a feed of Janey and Dani doing laundry. Bunky bitches about them having a washing machine and a clock.

Gretchen obsesses about what she'd pack and wear in the house.

Next caller wants to know if BB8 is in the works and if they could drop the age limit down to 19, so he can go in. Arnie's answer: CBS will tell them any time between Sept and January if they'll be renewed, and the age limit is 21. Deal with it.

Next caller talks about how the feeds have saved her life. Or killed her mother. Or something. I'm not really sure.

Bunky hates CT

Arnie says we're halfway through the houseguests, then he pervs on Gretchen, then he talks about how he hopes that jurors will vote for the person who plays the best game.


Next caller wants Arnie to know that she has been going to a chat room for the last several years to talk with other BB fans. She's got a lot of friends formed from bonds made there. Arnie is surprised to hear this. He thinks it's great. He talks about how he's in the BB compound most of the time. He rarely gets out and loves to hear stories about what the show means to people.

Arnie again talks about the time it takes to edit the show, the dedication, etc.

Next caller is Canadian. She kisses Arnie's ass, saying that Canada loves BB or some such nonsense.

Arnie says they start thinking way in advance about the twists for the upcoming seasons. Says their arts and competitions departments work tirelessly to create great sets, props, and comps for the hamsters.

Next caller loved the ghost faces. Wants to know if Arnie can do more similar stuff. Arnie laughs in her face and tells her to stay tuned, because there's still more to come.

Next caller thanked Arnie for not blocking the feeds this past weekend. Blah blah wedontblockthefeedsfornothing blah.

That's about it other than mentioning, AGAIN, that Bunky hates CT.

I still believe it's rigged. Ratings are the end game. They get the HG's in the diary room and feed them the lines, manipulate the strategies and generally herd the hamsters into the right turnstiles to the exit. The comps are probably not rigged but they are definitely targeted to specific hamster strengths.

The Flame Button man must die. Just say'n

Thanks toolletta. I thought maybe they were talking about James' rant about the PoV being fixed--the many times when things don't go his way so therefore must be fixed. I know some here don't like Janey but I really don't see where this whole thing about the HoH redo was her fault in any way. The ones complaining about it were the folks whose equipment wasn't working properly and if I remember correctly, Janelle wasn't among those folks. If the equipment wasn't working properly then it needed to be redone and include all houseguests, not just the ones whose equipment malfunctioned. Nothing stopped Erika from winning a second time except Erika. Just because it was probably the best time to get Janelle voted out doesn't make it any less appropriate to redo the competition. I have no opinion about the PoV redo until I actually see it. Maybe James has a point but until we see it we can't form an educated opinion.

I won't say it's rigged. Why? Because I honestly believe Will is just that good. He's going to win again and he doesn't need a rigged show to do so.

Anyway, Arnie sounds a little bitchy. I wonder how much of this is in reaction to e-mails about the HoH re-do and how much of it is a preemptive strike with the upcoming "Janie beat me up to get my doll" veto comp.

My opinion is that they need to go back to basics for the next BB. Get rid of everything. Make them sleep on cots until they earn beds. Make them sacrifice food for luxeries. If they want a pool table - make it take quarters and hide quarters throughout the house for the houseguests to find. Watching a bunch of spoiled hammies sit around and bitch isn't fun. At least if they are going to whine and bitch, make sure they have something to whine and bitch about.

Yeah, I'm not sure if I'd say rigged, but maybe guided, if that makes sense. I think the DR gives them hints and pushes towards what storylines they want. Janelle helping CT in week 4, the timing around the Alison vote, Will hanging out more with Janelle, Boogie and Erika knowing when to come clean about their relationship. But I think there are still a lot of things that happen against the producers' wishes. Like I'm sure they would have killed for an episode where James got blindsided, Kaysar got to stay, and Danielle learned the dangers of putting your closest ally on the block.

I do agree that the comps, while not rigged, are totally targetted for specific houseguests. The obvious veto comps, where only the person who knows they're being targetted will truly be motivated to win. The eliminator HoH seemed clearly designed for the houseguests to gang up on S6. The spider web, obviously designed for a small woman to win it, in a week where S6 had 3 men competing. And I think in general, they've been avoiding crapshoots because they don't want to chance the wrong person winning HoH.

I wouldn't have much issue with the flames if they would just restrict it to the feed where the actual rule-breaking is going on. If Dani starts singing in the bathroom, I really don't see why we need flames over everyone talking in the BY.

Now that we know there is indeed an ''Flame button man'' who is not our beloved Skippy.. We should forever hence name this flame button man so as not to tarnish Skippy reputation further more.

I offer

Flamer
Flaming Asshole
Fucking Fire Dude
Fire Face
Flaming Fire Face
Burnout
or
Stupid fucking asshole flamer burnout face.

CT are definitely using Danielle and Janelle as buffers. But the expendable HGs are James, George, and lastly Danielle. Will's trying to keep Janelle in the game and Boogie always comes up with a reason to keep Erika in the game.

They both claim to trust their quasi-showmance mate and showmance mate, respectively. If Janelle and Erika are left with CT as the F4, I'd expect some fireworks which could create a crack in CT as they decide who will be the Yoko Ono to their Beatles alliance.

My suggestion: Fire Marshal Bill.

I suggest Burnie.

Thanks, Tooletta, for the recap of House Calls!

And did you know...Bunky hates Chill Town??

How about Bernie, aka Bernie the Torch?