StepChylde, I thought that's what he was saying, too, but then he went on to say they had a buzzer there that didn't do anything, and that it was there when they came in and saw the sheep. He was saying that in the context that Dani was foolish to guess so early, because they still didn't know what the buzzer could mean.

I'm pretty sure.

ETA: I think they were told that there were going to be more clues, over the course of a few days or something.

As far as the Coup goes, I agree the word is "Ewe" (you). If Dani really already guessed Do Not Assume based on the sheep/dolly/DNA thing, I think she got it wrong. This wouldn't be the first instance of her jumping in and taking a chance that she's smarter than the rest.

We don't know how many words it is. If they give them one word a day, and if one of them is "you," and if they want time to edit it for next Thursday's show, then that is six words at most. So something like "ewe are the next Head of Household" won't work, plus I think it's too obvious.

I'm going with five words and my choices are: Big Brother is Watching "ewe" or, Julie's catchphrase for the commercials this season, "Do "ewe" like to watch?" Or even "Ewe" hold the ultimate power" (although I'm not sure how they'd do that in a puzzle). (Don't count Janelle out of the puzzles, btw.) "Watch or watches" would be alot easier.

I didn't find Howie and the sheep creepy at all, although I could see the jokes coming. It seemed like he was the only one who didn't go, "Ew, a goat! Or something! Get it out of here!" He treated it like a semi-tame animal that had been raised on a farm. And took it outside so it could do its business. Probably what I'd do. (I'd be more worried if he wanted to keep it inside.)

Do over! Yay! I agree, I think all those who got it wrong should be eliminated and the rest face off. With red and green paddles or something that can't go wrong.

The problem with this is that there are also probably people who legitimately lost because they did, in fact, ring in last when everyone had the right answer. How would it be fair to let them play again and exclude Janey or anyone else who got a wrong answer (did anyone else get a wrong answer)? Also, what do you do with the Booger, who didn't answer one question at all? Should "no answer" be considered wrong, when Howie was prompted for an answer, or should it be assumed that he would have gotten it right?

I think they had to let everyone play in the do-over or it just would get way too complicated.

Well Janie won HoH and I still don't think it's fair. It's not like I don't like her, but I think it's going to appear rigged to a lot of people.

Also, I suspect that Janie is going to do the bitchy, catty thing that worked last year when she was the underdog but won't come off as well against Dani or Erika.

I feel bad for Erika too. She just went from HoH to potential nominee. That has to suck. I know, she isn't doing anything and barely deserves to be there, but it still has to suck.

If it wasn't true before, it's definately true now. Janie is in a win or go home situation for the rest of the game. If she doesn't win the Coup, I suspect she might still end up nominated this week.

ETA:

It really doesn't matter now, but Will also got his question wrong. I know some people rang in last and were eliminated properly, but if the issue was technical difficulties - then wrong answers just shouldn't count. With Mike, it's hard to say what to do because the lovely and incrediably observant Julie missed his light not going on. I don't know - maybe this was the only solution, but I still think Erika just got screwed.

I'm sticking with my "Ewe keep your friends close, and Your enemies closer"

I'm off to enjoy some wine with Janey!

Why waste a whole season, should have just given Janie the $500K up front if you're gonna rig it for her. Arnold Shapiro is probably one of her bloody 'sponsors'.


Yes, I am, 'Bitter, party of 1'.

Boog is now trying to play James game it seems. He was in the WR acting PISSED AWF! with Dani and Erika, then ran into the yellow room to celebrate gleefully with Janey/Howie/James.

James can barely pull off the over-the-top duel play Boogie. You? Sorry, just don't see it working for long.

Kinda foolish as well, as it makes you not trusted and a target, and Wills low-key playing was really working for you. You're famewhorish ways are gonna cost you the game after all, dumbass.

Just think if this had happened LAST SEASON. Think about Ivette's reaction. They'd have had to use horse tranquilizers on her.

Yes, James is playing both sides, and yes, many of us don't like him for it. But, if Janey put him up and he got voted out, it would be last year all over again. The only person that this would harm is Dani, and yet she still has plenty more worms on her hook. And, I am not throughly convinced that James is all that high up on her hook.

Howie and Janie just need to become aware of James, and not do what is in James' best interest.

Although, I am happy Janey won. But, not because I am some Janey Freak, but because I am an anti Dani Freak and love to see her suffer. Well not literally, but you know in a fun kind of way.

You know up until two weeks ago, I was a total Janie fan. I lost some love because I think her HoH was handled very poorly. I am not enjoying her relationship with Will either.

Last week I hated her ire at being targeted. I like that she went out and won Veto, because I like her fighting spirit. But the girl makes enemies with how she handles herself.

I'm not looking forward to this week with Janie as HoH. I think Janie has a catty and mean side and we're going to see it this week. I hope I'm wrong. But I believe she's going to make certain people in that house hate her. So now when they target her it isn't going to be about getting out a tough player but getting out someone they don't like.

I'm not sure she's going to make it to the final two, but if she does, I think she's going to lose.

Well, there's always the Coup.

I wonder if anyone is safe from being nominated by the Coup? To me, it would make sense that the HoH and the Veto holder would be safe, but who knows?

I tend to agree - especially with the Veto holder part. But the idea behind a Coup is overthrowing a person of power which implies that person is vulnerable as well. Who knows what BB's rules will be.

I just needed to chime in about this HOH mess...I think anyone who ANSWERED wrong, the first time should not have been able to play the second time. It makes it seem very, very unfair - especially for those who had a legit. gripe about the buzzer not working.

I kind of understand why they would redo the whole thing. I just think it is very possible Howie didn't have the only glitch in the game. Someone else said they had to press it twice. In all fairness it seems redoing the whole thing gives everyone even playing field after everyone not having even playing field last time. It pretty much covers CBS's butt for not putting together adequate equipment.

Did Booger actually propose to Erika with a ring and all? And when they kissed was it on the lips or cheek or what? My feeds hate me and I didn't catch it. I'd love to know the full details.

Merged double posts -- Mags

They talked in to KT, then ran into the bathroom, sat down, Boog jumped up and retrieved some hidden object (the ring), got down on one kneee, did his speil, slid the ring on, then they hungged and kissed on the lips.

Wow. I can't believe they actually let Janelle win HoH. She and Will should absolutely not have been allowed to play again. This was the real coup d'etat, folks. This wouldn't be so hard to take if it didn't 100% switch the entire game around. I pretty much feel like if Janey wins this year, it's not a legitimate win. I know a lot (most?) won't agree with me here, but that's just my opinion. It doesn't matter how you look at it, Janey got an answer wrong, she was one of the first ones out. No matter what technical difficulties they might have had, Janelle would have *never* won that HoH last night. It's unfortunate that CBS' technical difficulties have put me solidly in the Janelle hate camp.

Now, we get to look forward to a snotty gloating bitch all week. Oh joy of joys.

Jesus. Working late sucks but thank god for TiVo. I didn't even turn on the laptop last night to see what happened after the show. I had to get up again at 4 am so I went to bed. Still. It haunted me. I have only read this thread so far so I don't know if it's been noted in the live feed recaps or elsewhere. Someone touched on the subject here briefly, but I feel this is important because it gave me nightmares last night. It has to be said.

What sick assed fuck put a helpless sheep tied up with a bow in the same house as Howie Gordon?! Do they not WATCH the feeds? I emailed PETA my concerns. Not all BB viewers live in the state of Washington. Play a movie, use a poster, anything but a live sheep served up like a Christmas goose to that sexually omnivorous whackado.

The HoH do-over is complete BS. Is it possible they offered compensation in exchange for the hamsters to sign a waver saying they wouldn't sue over this? How could they get them to calmly accept a do-over when half a mill and extra weeks of tv exposure are at stake? Their agents had to have been screaming down the phone lines with lawyers standing by over this one.

What the hell? Are you talking about the other girl he publically proposed to or Erika? Please tell me it wasn't Erika. I still like her. Don't make me vomit!



Ha! I can just hear Howard saying, "Damn! I forgot my waders!" I love ya Howard. sorry!

I pulled this quote from Sardonic in the Kaysar thread because in my opinion so far this season is playing out a lot like season two. Back then it really felt to me like Will was controlling the house - and it feels the same way this year. I'm sure an argument could be made that this season is just like season three or four or whatever - but in my mind, it's eerily similar to the last time Will won. And yeah, I just said the last time he won. I'm not convinced he'll make it to the final two - there's some luck involved in getting that far, it's not all social manipulation - but if Will does get to the very end, I fully expect him to win. How could the sequestered hamsters not vote for him? He's the anointed best player ever - and everybody's main target going in – and yet he's still there? That's some game!

I agree and said as much last night. But at this point, it doesn't matter anymore. I understand why CBS did the redo. Others have argued that Erika had the same chance to win the second one as she did the first and they're right.

The whole thing still feels off but it would have felt off because of what happened to Howie too. I think co-HoH would have been a better solution but obviously CBS didn't agree.

The people I'm enjoying most in the house right now probably won't be targeted, so I guess I should just let it go. It's funny though. At one time I was enjoying the Sov reign, but something about them trying to turn Erika, Marci and Dani into last year's nerd herd hasn't turned me off. I just don't think those players deserve that. It's especially disappointing from Howie because it was Dani KEEPING her word to him (unlike Jblow last year) that kept him off the block. Dani was getting a lot of pressure to put him up, but she kept her endurance competition promise. Unfortuantly I don't think he's bright enough to put that together.

From bostonrox in the wrong thread.

Good morning all. This is my first post and is likely being placed in the wrong thread but what the heck. My Coup guess "You have been eliminated from the Big Brother House". You = Ewe, Eliminated = Buzzer. It makes sense to me.

Additionally, my sincere thanks to the all of the recappers. The Big Brother series would be of minimal interest without you, your efforts and your wit. Thank You!

This is true. But, it's not just about Erika. The only person that was wronged last night was Howie, imo. So, Boogie's malfunctioned too. Doesn't matter, he lost anyway. Janelle and Will answered the questions incorrectly. The repercussions of Janelle winning have put the house and the outcome of the game in the complete opposite direction of what would have happened if Erika, the real winner, had been HoH. Like 'em or Love 'em, there's no denying this. With Janelle in power, a "floater" will be kicked out, leaving S6's numbers stronger and the "floater" numbers weaker. This assinine move by CBS is going to cause ripples of consequences right down to the bitter end. Even if by some miracle Dani won coup d'etat and used it and Janelle left anyway, it still means that Dani or Erika, or even Will or anyone, was robbed of a chance to use it later on when she might have needed it. It means that if Janey wins coup, she's practically guaranteed to get all the way to the end because she can use it later on instead of this week. The whole game this season has simply lost its legitimacy for me.



Unfortunately, the ones I'm enjoying the most will get targeted. I think if it was the other way around, I might not be as pissed AWF, but I would still think it was fundamentally unfair. My solution? I don't really know. But, it sure as hell would involve Janey and Will being ineligible.

I should be happy because Janelle won HOH, but somehow it just seems like an empty win. I think that things would have setlled with me better if they did a co-HOH instead, because regardless of my feelings towards Erika, it would have atleast been fair to her. Janelle and Erika being co-HOH's would have made for DOOG TV!

Hello all you HT lovers. I am a first time poster, and I have to begin by saying this is the best recapping site on the internet. Speaking as one who doesn't have the feeds, I thorougly enjoy the wit and wisdom that typically accompany your updates of goings-on in the BB house. Thanks.

Question: I watched Julie's interview of Kaysar this morning and they showed a "never-before scene" of Janie talking about going after another woman with a knife and throwing hot water on her two-timing boyfriend. Did anyone catch this on the feeds? Was Janelle serious? It seems CBS is trying to dampen Janey's popularity.

They can't do a co-HOH. Either the first competition was valid, in which case Erika should rightly be the sole HOH - or it was compromised, in which case it HAS to be voided and they have to start over. The producers can’t pick a spot in the middle, they have to decide valid or not valid – and then let the rest fall in place.

I agree, it sucks for Erika and it changes the game drastically – but everything on this show has the potential to change things big time. There’s a lot of luck involved in this game! All the hamsters got a fair shot in the second competition, and that’s ultimately what matters.

I heartily cosign that, Eluvium. It seems like TPTB are punishing Erika. I'm not an Erika fan, but this just seems outwardly cruel. The co-HoH thing would have really made more sense to me.

I had to rub eyes when I peeked in at the recaps this morning and saw Janelle's name on top of the thred. At first I was happy/excited, but then as I read what transpired, it just seemed wrong.

Yep. I heard her say it. Janelle was serious. I think she was talking to Diane? I didn't recap it and I don't think anyone else did here -- I read back to see if anyone else caught it. At the time I wondered if she wasn't exagerating to scare Diane or Erika a little. They were all talking about ex's. Far worse has been said.

Wonder why Chen is trying to put Kaysar off Janelle?

Edited to add a Mea Culpa. I was a bad, bad recapper that day. The hamsters had said so much outre shit that I let that one slide as not worthy of recappage immortality. I'm more of a bowel-movement-burp-&-misery kind of recapper. Never ever let me recap alone or the strategy afficionados will be pissed later.

Hanging head.

While I agree that the second competition was fair in and of itself, I don't think that's what ultimately matters. Ultimately, this has changed the game entirely and this one HoH competition was not meant to change things so drastically. In the bigger picture of the entire game, fairness and legitimacy have been completely compromised. Whoever wins the $500K now, especially if it is Janelle, would have most likely not been the real winner had CBS not messed this up so badly. The second HoH was not planned out beforehand either, but they made a call based on shaky ground. Everything that would have happened the first time around would have happened anyway with the possible exception of Howie's loss. And, Howie's loss in no way related to Janelle's win. Janelle was out before Howie and she answered incorrectly, and she would have been out no matter what technical difficulties may have happened. Now, the true winner is out the door either this week, or fairly soon since her alliance is going to lose a member (most likely Dani or Marcellas).

As for co-HoH's, I don't see why not. If they could do something as drastically as redo the HoH out of "fairness," they certainly could have chosen to co-HoH it as well, and for the same reason. This one decision, which was not planned beforehand, has changed the game entirely, which is a much bigger grievance than would be a co-HoH. I'm sure CBS has legal rights to do that.

I don't agree. When the Salt Lake City Olympics had their pairs figure skating scandle they didn't strip the pair that received the gold medal, and a judge basically admitted to cheating in that instance. The Russians clearly did not outperform the Canadians, but they weren't to blame for what the judge did. I think the co-gold was appropriate in that situation.

In this situation without the technical difficulties Erika still might have won - Janie and Will would not have because they got their questions wrong (and Will throws contests). A co-HoH would have been a compromise that would have allowed the wrong of the technical difficulties to be corrected but would have protected the person who may very well have been the rightfull winner anyway.

And honestly, it would have been a lot more interesting. I've been wanting another co-HoH for weeks anyway.

I have been a lurker for some time, love this place, but this controversy brought me out of hiding. I am so pissed awf at CBS for this - it is just not fair. I agree with you, merlynn, there is precedent for this. If Erika goes this week because of this mix-up, and Janelle would be a you-know-what to put her up, I just hope it blows up in her baby-doll face big time. I used to LOVE Janelle. Not anymore and I totally think this is so unfair. CO-HOH with Erika - would have been GREAT teevee and saved everybody's face.

Now, I think the whole game stinks.

Co-HoH wasn't an option. Legally, either the comp was valid, or the comp was invalid. Being a gameshow, BB does not have sole discretion on what they can do. Plus, there is precedent for redos on failed comps.

The problem isn't that Erika was stripped of a legitimate win.
The problem is that they told Erika she won, when she didn't.

A producer should have been screaming in Julies ear when Howies buzzer obviously didn't work, and a halt should have been called after a short review. Trust me when I say they now have a plan in place to do just that from now on.

If they would have ended it then and had a complete redo, WITHOUT annoncing a winner, there wouldn't be such a huge outcry.

BTW, kudos to BB for at least having the foresight to allow the feeds to see the entire redo. No chance of people calling 'FIX' on that at least.

I suspect the producers had no choice on the re-do; since James said himself to Howie, "sometimes you have to hit it twice." So, in effect, James helped to cause the re-do. It is so unfortunate that we can't tell Erika and company that their buddy James actually helped Howie's cause.

Yea! Janelle doesn't have to worry about giving up POV for this week.

I'll give you that. Part of the problem is that we had a perceived winner and that was tossed. But part of the problem really is that Janie got her question wrong. If she hadn't, we'd have nothing to talk about.

I know I would have been much happier if the situation with the lights had been dealt with during the live show. Hopefully they will either test their equipment better from now on or they can just go back to using chalk boards and paddles.

Technically, then, could they have chosen to redo the entire 60 days? (or however long it lasts) And, I don't say that to be snarky. But, the same could be said that the whole game was either now valid or invalid. To me, it now seems invalid, and couldn't a legal argument like that be used to question the legitimacy of the final winner? Is the law really that cut and dry regarding this issue?

For that matter, the contest started when the polls were opened to vote on the houseguests to go in. Did CBS lie to the public when saying only 6 of the top vote getters were going in, knowing they were really going to put in 8. Or, did they decide to change things once it already started, thereby setting in motion a change to the game they had originally planned?

From the savvy viewers it looks like 8 was decided long ago from the pre-show pictures. Is it fraud to the viewing public to mis lead like that?

My point being, I'm not so sure CBS had no other legal recourse.

On the Janelle thing, I vaguely recall the original conversation as it happened, and as it was recapped, and it wasn't all that shocking-- if it had been, I'm sure it would have been all over the internet by now. I also remember Kaysar bringing it up to Janey at one point, and she said she didn't attack the girl with the knife, she put the knife in the door.

I think there's some confusion, and that CBS might be editing for drama. After JustinCaseImaPsycho they don't have violent people on their shows.

The interview was pretty lame, though. I wanted to hear about Kaysar's feelings about James, not Janelle.

Precedence was also set in previous years.

Janelle, Howie, and James admitted that in S6, they had to redo the hockey competition over again, and James said there was another comp they had to do over as well. When they do something over, they start ALL over again. The difference here was that the original fuck-up happened on the live show, and Julie and the producers stupidly forged on ahead instead of stopping things when they had the chance.

The skating analogy that someone brought up earlier isn't a valid one. This has to do with a gameshow, and technical flaws that invalidated the contest. Not a skating competition, where the judges were bribed (and, for the record, I think the Russian skaters should have been stripped of their medal, but they never would be, because of the "Awwwwww poor Russians" factor that everyone watching the Olympics felt. Bad PR.)

They'll somehow screw those up too prob hehe.

I do agree that Janey got, at best, a HUGE lucky break. Given the situation tho, BB took their only option.

1) Let it stand as is. Not really an option. It was VERY obvious that Howie, Boog, and James (perhaps others) had problems with the buzzers. Boog, for instance, hit his buttons twice when he didn't light up at all. There was no way they could let it slide and hope no one noticed.

2) Co-HoH. Again, imo, not a viable option. If the buzzers were flawed, why should Erika benifit? With everyone buzzing in so quick, it would be almost impposible for BB to deduce if Erika was never really slowest.

3) Partial redo. Leaves too many legal problems. There is a HUGE difference between what you THINK someone did and what you can legally prove. We THINK that Janey wasn't rattled by, say, Marci eliminated. We THINK that Janey didn't throw the comp after Marci went out. We THINK that Janey hit the wrong button. But we can't PROVE any of those, and neither could BB in a court of law. Janey could also argue that the buttons not working gave her a disadvantage, for example say that Erika hit the wrong button and had it not count, changed her mind, and a split second later hit the right button and had it count.



The whole game isn't invalid tho, just the comp. The problem started when the comp was started, so thats all they can fix. Not sure on how cut and dry the legal guidelines are, but they do have legal guidelines. Basically, being a gameshow, they follow federal guidelines regarding 'fair play'. In a nutshell they (BB) can't unfairly infuence the game in any way that might alter the outcome, intentionally or otherwise.

Number 3 is a really good point, StepChylde.

Generally speaking, the regulation is very clear on these situations in the game show industry. I doubt CBS did any more or any less than they had to do.

No kidding. For one thing, he voted to evict Kaysar who was more kind to him than just about anyone to keep fucking JAMES in the house, who talked about him like he was lower than a dog. Then, everyone else just ignores him. I know he won't win anything else but I hope he lasts til the end because all the rest of these folks (Janelle included) piss me off.

Under what basis, though? That particular comp is only part of a larger game. Just like Howie's one question was part of the larger competition.




Do we really know that Howie buzzed in, or do we only think it? It's highly conceivable that Howie didn't hit the button. He obviously thought he did. So, he probably only attempted to hit it once. He could very easily have missed. We can't prove anything on that because obviously it didn't register for the light to go off.

Redoing was the easy way out. I agree that legally that most likely seemed like the best option. It probably was. However, I still don't think it was the only option. And, I still gotta call BS on this redo.

edited to add Didn't the hammies also complain that the buttons for the last veto competition weren't working properly? There's more than one comp that was messed up by faulty equipment. How do we know Dani wouldn't have actually won that competition and Janelle wouldn't already be out if they were working correctly?

Janelle HAS to be sleeping with Arnie. There was no way they could let Erika's win stand. This entire show is rigged, has always been rigged and they have just stopped trying to hide that it*is*rigged. Welcome to the machine.

I gave up caring who won or lost after the first season. They all get paid scale for their time and come out of it with the potential for future work and publicity. Howie seems to be one of the few who works that for all it's worth. It seems impossible that anyone signs on to do this show for any other reason than TV face time to launch a career in the industry and make contacts. This fair and not fair debate while theoreticaly interesting to me, feels like an exercise in academics. In my head I read the each post and preface them with: "If this were a real competition ..." because I just don't believe anything they do is by chance.

I would love to be a bug on the wall at that studio listening in on damage control discussions like last nights.

"WTF do you MEAN Erika won it? She wasn't supposed to win!"

"The equipment was faulty and ... quite frankly sir ... Janelle is a complete ditz. We can only prep her for the answers so much in the DR before the others get suspicious."

"Re-do it."

"Excuse me?"

"Fucking re-do the competition and use shit that works. I want someone to call janey into the DR and write the goddammed answers on her arm. Spike the damned drinks before they play and tell Janelle not to touch the stuff. Fix this!"

"Umm. On it sir.

:::Mumbletalkbitchtheshitihavetodoforthismotherfuckingjobgoddammedpeoplecan'tgetadamnedthingright:::

Having worked around this type of button for the last 13 years I can pretty much say 110% that I KNOW Howie hit the button. The action of the button being compressed makes a VERY distinct sound, almost a click. It is actually the plastic head hitting the plastic or metal retaining bezel. You can definitly hear the sound when Howie hit it.


That said, I have a bigger question. How is it that someone got secretly engaged yet no one is bothering to talk much about it? It's kinda funny that the the couple involved are so vapid and insincere to us that we barely seem to even care.

Does anyone know if he HGs are aware that Boogie's answer didn't light up on the question that Janelle got wrong? No one knows whether his answer was right or wrong, because Julie just breezed ahead without acknowledging that he had no answer.

It seems to me that since there's no way of proving who belonged in the re-do comp (because they didn't know if Boogie's answer was right or wrong) then everyone had to be allowed to play.

Oh, sorry. I stand corrected.

Does anyone knows if there's any site that posts transcripts of the Housecall chats?

Lol....ok, ok...I dont KNOW as in 'I saw his hand actually hit the button'. I KNOW in the same way if I had looked across the street, seen Howie at the neighbors door and heard their doorbell I would KNOW Howie rang the doorbell.

I'm confused about one of the rules. I've heard that people can use the DOR and just leave whenever they want to, but they'd give up their stipend and such. But, I've also heard breach of contract. Which one, can someone splain to me? Thanks.

CBS.com still has Erika listed as HoH. I guess they won't change it until Sunday's episode airs.

Anyway, I'm going to get over it. I don't want to think of the show as rigged so I'm going to chalk it up to Janie got lucky.

I have to say that I think this game is more interesting with some variety in it so I hope someone other than Janie or Howie wins the Coup. Actually it would be kind of funny if George won it.

Two things that I thought were interesting:

The "enagagement" looked off and I think that Erika looked distinctly uncomfortable - with a near eye roll at the end and a hesitance before the kiss. I didn't see her gleeful or their disclosure to Will, though. I also thought Boogie worked a spin on her in the KT that leaked some of Will's information. If this was real, she would be getting a different level of disclosure, I think. But hey, if he can propose to Krista and then date her, I suppose anything can happen!

Julie Chen listens to the live feeds in the morning (I read it online in a print interview) and had to be there late last night. I guess there IS a downside to sleeping with the boss.

And a question to the mods: is it possible to put who is eating and who is not at the top of the live feed grid when we enter? I forget it through the week and am interested in how the no food bonding takes place. May just be me, though.

Embrace your inner cynic Merlynn. It's liberating. For example.

If this were a real competition ...

Wouldn't an engagement to another competitor be certain eviction? It would. Everyone would be gunning for your exposed alliance. And yet, they don't fear that grim reaper one whit. They are there for face time on national TV. Engaged for the same reason. Why do it otherwise?

In fact it's the perfect set up. Engaged one week. Tragically separated the next by eviction. How will the two lovers :gagretchhurl:: cope until they are reunited in sequester. No cameras in sequester so we can imagine them finally getting that private room at the no-tell-BB-motel. Doesn't matter who wins really. Somewhere, some hamster is getting sex.

Jesus I just made myself sick and I thought I was immune.