I think I love you uaintjak! Not only do I totally agree with your thoughts on Janelle staying, but the line about Marcellus being a pancake you flips every five minutes is brilliant!

Do we know what the specifics are on James' "Nullify One Vote" thing? There are two ways that it could go down and it makes a difference.

The first way is he can just say, "Cancel one of the votes kicking me out." But that seems too simple.

The other way is that he has to specifically name the person whose vote he wants to nullify. And if they can get all tricksy on him and convince him that Kaysar and Howie will vote out Janey, then maybe he'll accidentally nullify a vote that was going to save him.

Never mind. It sounds ridiculously convoluted and hiiiiighly unlikely when I write it down. It made a lot more sense in my head.

I'm sure it is name the person whose vote you want to nullify. The egg it came from was meant for a random houseguest, not specifically a nominee, so it couldn't be "cancel a vote against me", as odds were a non-nominee would get it.

Doh! Yeah. Like I said, it made a lot more sense in my head. And now it makes no sense at all!

I kind of hate to say this, but I'm sort of really getting sick of the hamsters, to the point of not wanting to watch them anymore.

Everyone by now knows I'm a huge S6 fan, no doubt about it. It's not that James turned on them, or Janelle made bad decisions, or that Janelle is likely to go home. I could deal with that - Kaysar was my favorite player last year (along with Janelle) and I kept going when he left. He and Janelle are still my top two, and even if one of them goes, the other will still be around for me to love.

It's the vileness and flashbacks to the Nerd Herd that are really turning me off. I mean, yes, you expect some venom to spew, and lord knows I do enough of it in my recaps - but those are for fun. The venom spewing from people like James, Marcellas, Boogie, Jase, Diane...I don't know. It really gets to me. It's all so very mean spirited, and it's NOT in fun, and it's pretty vile to watch and depressing to listen to.

I guess my problem is that I really do like Janelle and Kaysar, and seeing them get voted out would be fine, but..."cunt" "whore" "fat bitch" and then you have Kaysar trying to be a stand-up guy and Will is constantly talking about his "false morals" and Danielle's bullshit and Marcellas's bullshit and James's bullshit. Ugh.

Bleah, I sound like Debbie Downer.

I need a pick-me-up.

If they really can't get just Marcy, Erika and CG to vote out Janelle, then they all deserve to roll over for S6. No doubt about it. The floaters get info, too. They know there is a "war" for them that started when Erika hit the block - the pretensions of Mr. and Mrs. and Mr. and Mrs. and Mrs. and Ms. Smiths was pretty much over. Marc may be a waffle, but he knows which way to flip for this one - S6 can run the floaters' asses right on outta there while hinting to work with CT. The threat of SovTown puts the floaters who aren't Dani/James into a tailspin.

I believe Janelle is gone unless she is vetoed, and more than likely will be. I'd take up to 3/1 for solid that she comes off the block, I have that much faith in CBS. I think Kaysar is going to go, he's too mopey and kinda messed up at the moment. He saw what he needed to do to play for himself, but didn't like the taste of it and rightfully so. It's not an ideal game, it's a real game. (Goooo Jack's CBS revenge blog!)

In Season 3, I was a huge Danielle fan. And, I never got why so many people disliked her. I'm doing the same thing now. I like the way Danielle plays, and I'm rooting for her. And, I just don't get why she stirs so much hatred in people.

Now, take the S6 people. Last year, I loved them as well. This year, not so much. And, part of the reason for that is it looks to me like they are acting more and more like the nerd herd. Kaysar, while I think his strategy is foolish, isn't doing it so much. But, Janelle and Howie especially seem to have no problem saying unwarranted and hateful things about their fellow players. It started back when Howie was saying unwarranted horrible things about Nakomis. Now, they don't have a problem calling people names, like Dani and Erika, simply because they don't play the same way that S6 plays. Last year the house was divided, and so now S6 thinks the house should be the same way. They hate the floaters for some unknown reason. The irony is they want them to pick a side. The truth is, the "floaters" have picked a side, and it's clearly anti-S6, since the S6 is taking out the floaters. S6 is getting what they wanted, and now they're pissed about it.

I have never once seen Dani call Janelle or Howie a bitch or an ass. I can't say the same for Janey and Howie.

Danielle is here to play a game. Yes, she's sneaky and not to be trusted. But, that's what the game is about. What the game is *not* about is making things malicious and personal because you don't like someone or their choices. Danielle isn't doing that, but many members of the S6 are. And, say what you will, but Danielle actually stepped up to the plate and did something this week, unlike the rest of them who are too chickenshit to do anything. In their mad scramble to not make an enemy out of S6, they sit their like lumps on a log sealing their own death warrants.

Danielle (and Will, of course) are playing the game without resorting to meanness, and that's why I'm rooting for them. When things don't go their way, they don't go around the house calling people bitches and ho's, unlike certain other people.

I think a couple of people have mentioned that Booger will vote however Master wants. But, he proved last week that that is not the case. Dr. Daywalker could not convince Booger to vote Eribcka out. Personally, I think that's because Booger and Eribcka have a THING and an SSA, but the point is, Booger actually went against Master's wishes.

So, I don't think you can really say that just because Dr. Daywalker says "let's keep Janey," Booger will go along with it. Booger also proved that he hates Janey during his drunken rant... I think it really bothers him that Janey would not touch him with a 10 foot condom wrapped around her entire body.

Plus there is the fact that Janey could whip Booger in just about any comp.

I'm not saying Booger would definitely vote against Janey, but it's a really good possibility, regardless of what Master wants.

Also, I agree with jak that there is some stuff going on this year that is really hard to take. For me, tho, it's the Master/Booger "Cool Kids" Show. I am so sick of that shit. It really drives me up the wall. To me, Master/Booger are just the worst of the worst.

And the constant flamage with the neverending LOUD theme song. That could really push you over the edge. I largely blame Master/Booger for that, see above. Another reason to hate the "Cool Kids" Show. The fact that Dr. Daywalker is constantly fucking with production, thereby making us suffer (and miss out on important convos and such), makes me want to shove a flaming bag of dog shit in his mouth.

ETA: Keith, I don't think Dr. Daywalker and Dani are innocent of meanness. They are just more subtle about it. Dr. Daywalker, for example, has been "mean" to both Howie and Dye. And he badmouthed just about everybody to Janey when she was HOH. He doesn't call people names, usually, but he's mean. Dubbing Howie "Big Boy", the retarded wrestler, isn't exactly loving. He has also said several times that Howie is dumb and compared him to a sponge. At least twice, he basically attacked Dye's character via a "therapy session" about her relationships with men. He uses Booger and throws him under that BUS. He and Booger trash the other hammies almost every ep in the DR, with their little phone call skits, making fun of how stupid everyone is. He's plenty mean. He's just insdiously mean, not rampagey mean. Like I said before, I honestly think he's cruel. I really think there is something wrong with him.

Dani is basically the same, IMO. Not cruel, but plenty capable of meanness. She is walking a carefully defined line because of what happened to her in her season (and because she had no real power until now). She doesn't want anybody to accuse her of being catty or vicious this time. But it's there, just the same. I can't think of any specific examples right now, so that doesn't exactly help my case, but I think Dani is just as mean as anybody else in that house.

When Howie went on his anti-Nak rant, Kaysar and Janelle (mostly Kaysar, but Janelle as well) did shut him down.

My problem with Danielle is (a) her know-it-all-ness, and (b) her holier than thou attitude, and © her lying. One or two of those I can live with in a hamster I like. Having to watch all three in one makes me wanna barf.

You're not too nuts. That's exactly what they did in season two. Nicole and Will each got to nullify one person's vote. Hardy (dumb cute boy that he was) tried to make it look like he was mad at Nicole so Will wouldn't nullify his vote. It didn't work. Will took out Hardy and Nicole took out Shannen (I think). It was an interesting bit of last minute strategy. I liked it.

Anyway, when it comes to houseguests ranting, I think some of it is the enviroment they're in, some of it is probably gameplay, and some of it is what they would do even if they weren't in the house.

Personally I find bad behavior that might be strategic (James, Will) to be more forgivable than bad behavior that doesn't appear to have a strategic purpose at all (Mike, Jase).

Danielle has resorted to outright lies to support her agenda. She actually quotes Janey as saying something Janey never said, and has trashed Janey repeatedly with that lie, using it to ramp up resentment against Janey in the rest of the house, and thus creating and using a mob mentality to advance her personal agenda. To me, that's far more vile than namecalling.

Marcellus is just a narcissistic fuckbrain. His viciousness has nothing to do with game, so he doesn't even have that excuse.

I hesitate to make excuses for S6, but that doesn't mean I won't-- generally, I see more humor and support for each other in their interactions, which I appreciate. They tend to monitor themselves and each other, too-- they often make comments when they're ranting that they "sound like the nerd herd", and when there is a rant, it's generally connected with something truly stressful, not just because they're drunk, or they're making up a target, or trying to manipulate others, or just hateful in general. Not that they aren't wrong sometimes, it's just there's definitely a different spirit there.

Plus, I think they're funnier, and a bit more self-aware, and a lot less self-involved than most.

I'd be a lot happier watching the feeds if Danielle (because she's so BORING), Marcellus, and at least half of CT were gone. My main motivation now is to see Dani and Marcellus die by the swords they've chosen to live by in the house.

Danielle's been calling Janelle a fat bitch and evil all week long. I honestly hadn't seen Janelle trash-talk anyone (not even Alison or Diane) until this week. And since I tend to cut the nominees slack on that crap, because I usually think they're just psyching themselves up (I can't even blame Diane for calling Janelle the c-word). The only issue I have with Janelle is with her anger towards Erika. Dude, you nominated her without warning! Of course she's pissed and doesn't want to protect you anymore. Duh. That Erika nom remains the one part of Janelle's HoH week that I'll agree with everyone on as being badly, badly played.

This is why I do still back up Janelle's noms last week. She knew what was going on. She wanted Danielle out most, but Kaysar wouldn't do it. So they compromised on Diane, who was also a parachute for James. And what happens? Kaysar STILL doesn't see what's going on with James. She was right not to listen to those who wanted her to put up Will last week. Let's imagine if she had. Diane or Danielle wins HoH this week, Janelle still goes up, but probably against Kaysar. Chilltown, whether they flipped the vote and got Erika out or not, are most definitely not going to do crap to help her out. She still may end up going home this week. But at least she has options. Had she gone after CT last week, she'd have no prayer except for veto.

And Kaysar...man. I honestly think he'll deserve to go on the block if Janelle ends up winning veto. He sat there vacillating on who to save, which was totally ridiculous, and now he's lost his chance to protect himself. I get that he doesn't want to jump to conclusions about James, but c'mon, it's so obvious. You know he's with Danielle, you know he's got the vote nullify thingy, and you can see that he's not that freaked out. If one of James' supposed allies betrayed him by nominating him, wouldn't he be a little more pissed off than he was last week when *Diane* was nominated? Wouldn't he be more paranoid worrying about where the Sovs would end up voting and what that meant for his placement in the pecking order? If he's not worried and scrambling, then guess what? He knew he was going up, and he knows where the votes are.

I still think the day is going to come when we find out there is a reason James keeps telling Dani to protect Kaysar and Dani keeps trying to "adopt" Kaysar. He said he was the one who put them in touch with each other. He's always shrugged it off when anyone has told him they're together. I just think there is more to this than meets the eye.

Anyway, I have a question about Veto. For two weeks now I've seen references to Janie picking who plays Veto with her. Is this her privilage alone? Or is she just getting lucky with the player's choice?

I think it's just been luck. They showed the veto picking on the show last week and she picked the players choice ball. Plus during all the discussion last night there was one point where she said if she picked the choice ball.

My dream goodbye video would be the one from Danielle to James this Thursday night where she tearfully says "I'm sorry, James, you know I wanted to take it as far as possible with you. But at the end of the day, I had to protect Kaysar."

That would feed James martyr complex and insecurity for a million years.

That would be priceless. He'd get all David Schwimmerish in his whining with Julie Chen.

In the recap thread, Kate asked:


I think I'm the one who started using it this season, and I want to explain why. DOOG TV is simply GOOD TV, that elusive magical thing Will and Booger constantly discuss (because they "think like producers.") It's not original, though. I first read about the wonders of DOOG TV when I was a lowly visitor enjoying the wit and charm of the posters at the Mighty Big TV BB2 recap board. That site evolved into TWOP, and the recappers began this wonderful site. Many years passed. Eventually, I had completed my training as a recapper, only to fiind this year the same two dweebs expounding on DOOG TV. It's a phrase that cried out to be resurrected!

And that is the story of DOOG TV.

Should we add it to the acronym/nickname list?


Maybe so. I was certain that Janey CHOSE Marcellus, though, from the way she was berating herself afterward and Dani's shock that she didn't pick Howie or Kaysar.

Yeah she did choose him. That was just in response to if she always got to just pick. I was just saying that last time we know she picked a choice ball, so she probaby just got lucky and got one again. :)

Janey DID pick MarSullen, because she lamented the choice the rest of the evening, so I am thinking she drew a 'houseguest's choice' ball.

I know! Eventually, it'll add up, unless...

I do, too. Definitely. There’s a reason Dani put her alliance-mate James in harm’s way, and it has to do with not wanting to put Kaysar in harm’s way. Also, last night James was really trying to get Kaysar to understand how the game is really played. I think he definitely wants Kaysar around for later, and Kaysar knows if Janey is leaving, he’s still in an alliance with James. I’m glad he didn’t fall on his sword (or reveal his veto-giving hand) to Janey yesterday, especially after I heard her telling CT that Kaysar would volunteer to be voted out if they both ended up on the block—again. She expects him to just fall over and do whatever for her, when he’s playing his own individual game, too.


Very true, and one reason I haven't abandoned Dani. She no saint, but she's not vicious, and she at least knows how to maintain the appearance of friendliness (Janey wants to go on a rampage, and that's NOT how you play this game!).


They all do that, though, on every reality show involving people voting each other off. It’s the demonization syndrome. They do it to make themselves feel better about axing someone. I’ve seen it over and over again.
Like swsa said:


I find Will's meanness more hurtful than the simple name-calling. Will seeks out a person's psychological weakness and tries to exploit it.

Me, too, Haunted Rain. It’s almost sociopathic, or a severe lack of empathy. Which is why I’m barely hanging onto the Janey love train, because she’s fallen for this creep (she can deny it all she wants on TV, but she's clearly smitten). How about Will comparing Howie to Charles Manson and Ted Bundy on the show? Why did they even include that? It certainly shows an aspect of Will, though, doesn't it? It was so mean, and Howie has done nothing to warrant being compared to psychotic serial killers. In fact, Ted Bundy was a lot like Will--a professional guy, charismatic, brilliant, and evil (not that Will's that kind of evil, but it's a heck of a lot better comparison than Howie!).

The interesting thing about Will though is that he is apparently in touch with Nicole, Hardy and Monica from his season. I don't think that was in preperation for All-Stars either.

Despite all his talk of hating people (I do believe he wouldn't get along with Kent) I think there is more to Will then we see on this show. I believe he's vain and arrogant, but that wouldn't make him unique as a DR.

My point about Danielle was that her gameplay is not superior in any way to the other players being condemned in this thread. Her attacks on Janey have been personal, malicious, and untrue. She has behaved viciously, and she has been on a rampage with the lie since she made it up. It's also not good, or necessary, game play-- it's not like she couldn't have stirred up fear and suspicion against Janey without the lie-- the float herd was already there. And she's not doing it out of anger, stress, or frustration-- Janey did nothing to her. She's simply a liar and a coward. That's her game.

Still, I wouldn't mind it all so much if she wasn't so freaking boring.

I don't think she expects him to. He said he would. I think he's getting his second wind now. But before noms, he told everyone he wanted to leave. Obviously, we come at this from different perspectives based on who we're fans of, but I'm really bothered by some of Kaysar's moves this year. The veto thing...I just have no doubt that if the situation were reversed, Janelle would be "game on" and would work her ass off to win it for him. It'd be one thing if Kaysar and Howie were torn because they were worried if one of them won it, the other would go up...ie. if Kaysar saves Janelle, Howie might be nominated. But that wasn't the issue, they wouldn't commit to choosing Janelle over James. And Janelle would never do that to either of them. I do think they're setting up their game for when she leaves, and in a way I can't blame them, because that's smart gameplay. But it really doesn't make me like either of them or want to root for them at all.

I wouldn't call it a rampage. I also am not convinced that Dani is lying. I think she may have easily misinterpreted what Janey was saying or who she was talking about. And no one's set her straight, if Janey in fact was referring to Chill Town. Clearly her "ability" and strength is a hot button for Dani, so I can see her getting upset if she thinks someone denigrated it. In other words, it's probably a misunderstanding exacerbated by the circumstance--Dani was already unhappy with Janey's game choices, and when this convo happened, she was more than ready to think Janey said something insulting, even if Janey didn't intend it that way.


Janey said the same thing, though. Numerous times. In the same conversations. But I never heard her offer to go so Kaysar could stay and play. The way she said it to CT, it was a clear assumption that of course she would stay if Kaysar was nominated, too, because he'd let her stay. I think Kaysar will play better without Janey in the house, and I don't fault either he or Howie for not saying who they'd use veto on. Why should it be Janey anyway? James is close to both of them, too, and Janey is making side deals with CT and telling them everything. As for her not picking them to play, they realized it was another misunderstanding. Janie thought neither would USE it, but that wasn't the case at all.

All the hamsters need to go to interpersonal communication workshops. Nah, scratch that. It's more fun to watch them screw up.

Danielle quotes Janey, including saying Janey said "no offense" to her after talking about weak players-- that just didn't happen. She may have deluded herself into believing the lie, but it wasn't a misunderstanding. I looked over the conversation a couple of times, and it's just not there.

I think she went on a rampage to the other houseguests over it, just not to Janey. If Dani's such a badass, you'd think she would have confronted Janey about it at the time, or even in the days after the fact when she was ranting to the float herd about it. It sounds like she mentioned it at the veto ceremony, but not in a way Janey could answer.

I bet that conversation is on You Tube somewhere.

Sure if Kaysar were nominated against James, she'd work her butt off to save him. But would she do the same if he were nominated against Howie? If Kaysar is playing this game to win, I can see a lot of reasons why he wouldn't want to be the one to save Janie. He probably will vote to keep her if she doesn't win Veto, but he's hedging his bets right now and I can't blame him.

One of the things I hated about the "friendship" last year was that they acted like nobody should be trying to win the money. Apparently in their world it was summer camp and all these new BFFs shouldn't compete against each other. The S6ers are all fierce competitors and should be totally allowed to compete against each other and then congratulate the one who wins (if any of them do). In my opinion, that includes letting someone you like go if it helps improve your game. This just isn't a team sport.

I'm afraid I might have sounded kind of bossy and Danielle-ish in my rant. Of course all that is only my opinion, and I'm open to being wrong. This is one of the few times I think the show might actually clarify something for us feeders. If we can trust the editing.

To me, that's exactly the problem with Howie, Kaysar and Janelle. There are all SO used to the "US" and "THEM" mentality from last season, that becomes the only way these three know how to play...Kaysar not so much as Howie and Janey. They don't know how to work the floaters over, instead they just try to steamroll the whole house by winning every comp. Ain't gonna, happen, as we all knew, and they...didn't.

Edited for typos and mis-quotage

Don't worry about it. I'm just scratching my head over the whole thing. I witnessed the Boogtard version to Eribka, but nothing else. At the very least, from what you say, Dani did embellish a LOT on the conversation, which ain't pretty! But I also don't think it took any prodding for her to get the other HGs riled up against S6. That pump was primed and ready to go off, probably no matter which non-S6er won HOH.

And yeah, the show often clarifies things for me. This year especially what with FLAMES every 20 seconds!

JustKimmie, I agree. Janey is all ready to go "ballistic" on Dani and the rest of them, and thinking with a seige mentality, when this is game is all about being social. Will was constantly nominated, but he won because he was one of the few HGs in his season who just shrugged it off. By the time voting came around, he was seen as the lesser threat. Look what going ballistic did for Jase--yet Janey doesn't care, either because it's how she prefers to operate, or she doesn't know any different.

"Okay, here's the thing" with the whole Kaysar not playing the veto...he told Janelle that if he played and won the Veto he would definitely use it, he just didn't know if he'd use it to save James or Janelle. This of course hinges on the fact that my beautiful and perfectly symmetrical dufus doesn't know of James betrayal and has this whole misguided team unity thing.

I heard Janelle later telling people that Kaysar wouldn't use the veto at all if he played and won. I know I heard him say he would, he just wouldn't commit to using it to save her over James. In that situation, if I were Janelle, I'd have a little faith in my ability to work over Kaysar after the veto and go ahead and pick him anyway. If she did so, she'd increase her chances in the competition and give him the chance to save himself. She doesn't owe him the chance to save himself since he's so noncommital, but I don't think it would have hurt her. So, they both screwed up. But they didn't have time to really plan what they'd all talked about (which involved flipping a coin to see who James or Janey would pick if given a chance). I'd like to see her win the veto today to watch her go buxom (not good game, but good fun) and to see if Danielle is willing to put Kaysar on the block.

It is kind of wonderfully hysterical that Janey picked Marci to play and put him in that bind.

I heard it that way, too, which is why I am concerned how freely Janey ran around and told people he refused to play veto. (That loose lips thing--she doesn't seem to think who she's saying what to--or doesn't care).

She may have just misunderstood or gotten her wires crossed in her brain, too, but she really should have put faith in her ability to guilt him into using it on her, if only because he would have been playing "for her" if she picked him. Heck, I'd try that, and I'm not a buxom blonde!

I go back and forth on wanting Janey to win or not.

If she wins:

(a) screw up Dani's plans
(b) see her go ballistic.

Both very good things. But I don't want Kaysar on the mac yet. I want him to last longer to see how he plays with other hamsters, and not just the S4. Or, if he goes up and James schemes to stay and Kaysar doesn't, then I'll have to shrug and accept that he's just not made for this game.

I try not to get too emotionally invested in any one player! Or hatin' too much on any. It's kinda fun to make fun of them all.

I'm mostly excited that things have gotten interesting. I want Janey to win because I think it would create the most drama. I really don't want Danielle to win because she's insufferable enough as it is.

But it all depends on what the comp is. It probably involves the overthrow the HoH, don't you think?

I think Janey didn't pick Howie or Kaysar because she could tell they really didn't want to, and she honestly didn't want to put them in that position.

Dani's HOH is interesting on various counts - although I could live without Queen Dani and her expanded powers of all-knowing, all-seeing, and all-persuasiveness mixed in with illustrative stories from the Gospel of Dani: BB3, the Life of Dani, and Tales of Jason the Magnificent. I'm just amazed that James didn't throw more of a fit about being put up - even as a pawn and I wonder if he's just holding that back until he is in a more powerful position in the house. I'm also amazed at how deeply and emotionally Kaysar is committed to making James not feel like he is an expendable part of the alliance when put up with Janey. I know that James, by his nature, is a weasel but I also know that he has some really deep-seated issues about feeling like he belongs and is respected within a group and that talk last night with Kaysar has to do something to James. You just know he fully expected to be abandoned by the s6 people the first time trouble hit and instead Kaysar does just the opposite. At the same time, the person who he thought was he's secret alliance "pawns" him - which automatically makes him anxious and suspicious no matter how much he's told that he is protected.

It will be interesting to see what the ramifications of this will be for the game....especially with Julie teasing us with the idea of the coup d'etat looming on the horizon.

Oh, and does anyone else think that Dani's fixation on Jason is sort of creepy? The way she talks about him, I'm suprised she hasn't left her husband and kids to move as close to Jason as possible at all times. He was a nice kid and all, but Christ Almighty, if she really does still replay season 3 in her mind all the time, cries about losing him the 500,000, and thinks about it everyday - she really does need some help. I'd call bullshit on that but sometimes I think she might just be that insane.

I do wonder if Danielle's a little unbalanced.

I was looking to see if James would go and spill everything S6 to Danielle since his talk with Kaysar yesterday, and as far as I can tell, he hasn't.

I think Kaysar's inclusion of James, and letting James know that he sees him as an equal in the alliance, might really work in S6's favor. Though I doubt it melted Jame's cold cold heart, he might start to see the value of a strong alliance that's open with him, over a SSA that nominates him at the first opportunity.

I forget to mention that I think James would be an interesting veto win. I see a lot of possibilities and tough choices for Danielle in that scenario.

If it can be coupled with a little uncertainty about his position as a mere pawn nomination, he'll be clamoring for the bosom of S6 for at least one more week.

3:45 pm HT

It doesn't seem like the Veto challenge has ever been this long. Almost 4 hours now. Another thing that is odd, from what I can tell from the posts, Skippy hasn't slipped and given us even a little snippet of what's happening. I am crossing my fingers and hoping an all out war has broke out, and Skippy shows us it before all the fun is over.

I have a feeling they're not going to come back until after the show tomorrow. Didn't they do that once last year?

ETA--Um, scratch that. Heee.

I am so glad Janey won the veto, or so it seems. Not so much because I care if Janey stays, I just want to see Dani freak out. Although, I feel Kaysar may go up, but if that's the case, James may get voted out.

That would be too funny. Also, James may start to freak too, now.

I know what you mean. A paranoid James is always fun in a shadenfreude sort of way.

I think we're going to see a major James freakout in the next couple of days.

I don't know if Dani will freak out, but this was her worst possible scenerio. At this point, I don't think Dani can do anything that will prevent Janie from coming after her (although I think there's a good chance Dani was next up for eviction anyway on the Sov's hitlist).

Sacrificing James would be stupid because he might be her only protection next week now that everyone is going to be kissing back up to Princess Janie.

So Dani has to choose between Kaysar and Howie. Her best choice is Howie but I'm not sure she knows it. Kaysar might beat James in a vote (you just can't trust CT) but if Hurricane Howie shows up he will probably get evicted.

I wonder if James will see the humor of it if he gets evicted this week?

My prediction: James goes home.

(I suck at eviction predictions)

Thanks for THAT. Now you got me worrying like James after a veto competition that Kaysar's getting the boot this week.

It could still be Howie.

*crosses fingers*

Oh I know people hate James, but it will be far more interesting to watch what he does in the house with Janie and Kaysar than just to watch the Sovs take out Dani.

By the way, I think it's almost a given that Janie will be the next HoH (especially if James does get evicted). The whole house will throw it knowing her target is Dani.

I unfortunately was outside, so I did not hear. But, Snooky said that Dani got 24 hr. solitary confinement. *doing the dance of glee*

So now without queen Dani around, maybe the hamsters will get together and start swapping stories on how she seems to have an allience with everyone.

Also, have I mentioned, that I am extremely happy that I will have 24 glorious hours of Dani free re-capping and watching?

If Dani puts up Kaysar, I really think James goes. Not even so much because of CT, but because I don't think she can count on Erika or Marcellas' votes in that instance. So Janelle, Howie, Erika...they only have to swing CT and it's done.

If she really wants to keep James, I think she'll put up Marcellas. I think that's the only person he's safe against. If she doesn't care about keeping James, she'll risk putting him up against Howie or Kaysar.

You really don't think CT would vote Kaysar out in a single beat of their black hearts?? Both of them know neither could win against Kaysar...they probably think they COULD against James.

Yeah, but they get to point and laugh at Dani and make her eat her words if James goes. They'll get Kaysar out at another time.

I really liked S6 at the beginning of this game. Now, not so much. I cannot believe they are acting like such whiny babies (especially Janie) because they got put up. They have this attitude of entitlement that makes me puke. This is a game and they seem to feel as if they should float to the end with everyone kissing their ass as they pass by on their way to 500K.

They may be good at competitons, but their people and strategical skills sorely lack. I would rather see Will laugh all the way to the win then see an S6'er get one cent of the end money.

But they really don't like James. They don't trust him. They've talked about wanting him out of the game. Plus? I think the drama of voting out the pawn would be too tempting for them. But even so, I think Kaysar could swing it without them. George (remind him who nominated him), Erika, Marcellas (as Erika goes, so goes his nation), Janelle, Howie. However it goes, I think there are too many scenarios where Kaysar stays. It's not a safe nomination at all. If she puts Kaysar up, I think that's her all but admitting she's okay with losing James. Honestly, I think her putting James up in the first place is her admitting that.

Howie could be a safer bet for her. But she loses a lot of "New Danielle" respect for blatantly lying and the whole house would know about it. And the votes still aren't for sure.

I honestly don't know what she'll do. She made a huge mess here, that's for sure.

I agree with you basically, but from the recaps it looks like the current CT discussion is that they want Marci or Howie out. I'm not sure why they want Marci gone, but they think Howie is the closest to Janie and want him gone for that reason. Looks like whoever said that Will will use Janie's safety list as an order of eviction list is right - Howie was at the top.

Anyway, I would think they would want Kaysar out too but I'm not sure Kaysar needs their vote. He would have Janie, Howie and he might be able to swing Erika, George and Marci. It's a stretch but it could happen.

It's interesting that people are even floating the idea of Marci and George. I will be amazed if the Sovs can walk out of this intact WITH James still in the house.

From the recaps:


The HOH cam doesn't have sound right? It would drive Dani NUTS to have to sit and watch people talking to each other for 24 hours and only be able to try to read their lips! That's enough to make anyone a little paranoid.