I think even Nak realized Julie made a mistake.

It's strange, but I have no idea who Kaysar will go after. Mike and Will would make sense, but I'm not sure he'll do it.

They seriously have to get off of the ChG-must-go bandwagon. Get rid of a power player not him yet. I'd make him think he's in trouble to try to get some deal with him - at least to guilt trip him if possible later. I'm trying to rem who Kaysar said he wanted gone - yesterday maybe - during one of the many hypothetical 'who are we going to get rid of when we win HOH?' discussions. Not that it will mean anything now, lol. The S6ers just can't get too cocky and loud this week though...

Well that message would need to be delivered straight to Howie.

I guess there really is no flying under the radar for the BB6 people, but Howie doesn't even try.

Aw, poor Nak! I felt so sorry for her and was really hoping for her to win. I hope she sticks around for a while. Nak is real!

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I just hope James makes it crystal clear to Danielle that Booger and Will tried to get rid of her - break it down so she doesn't believe the lie that those two told her last night about lying to S6 about their vote.

Well, I'm sorry to see Alison go -- this was the Alison vs Janelle Show for me and now it's going to be sort of boring.

Do any of you live feed watchers know what Nak was talking about with the "shoot your mouth off" thing?

I thought there was supposed to be two HoHs - why is Kayser the only HoH?

Nak was kinda behind the 'save Ali' bandwagon. She helped get Ali enough votes to at least tie, then Ali started freaking out and running around, basically trying too hard. She got worked up and started lying her ass off in an attempt to get votes.....votes she basically already had. Those HGs still on the fence were turned off by all the lies, and chose to keep Dani.

Just before the competition, Julie said there would only be one HOH this week - presumably to keep the hammies on their hammie toes and not assume they know everything that's going on in the house. But the hammies suspect there may be 2 HOH's again sometime.

What Nak said in her goodbye message to Allison was freaking awesome :-D

I watched the show and yet... I can't remember who voted for Danielle. I think one was Boogie. Can anyone tell me who they were?

Hopefully, Kaysar won't overthink the situation, and try something like the Maggie/Cappy trap. (And what was that quote in one of the best moments of Big Brother history?)

Howie is a shaver, according to a Yahoo! group I belong to. Is that true? Someone tell him to please stop. He's might be killing his braincells.

I wonder if Diane colored her hair black because of the whole Skunk thing from her season.

Nakomis and Diane voted for Danielle. However, I think that by the time that they found out that the votes were there to evict Alison for sure, Diane had already voted and Nakomis was casting her vote, so it might have been 10-0 if Boogie had tipped them off half an hour earlier.

As much as I love Paddywhack, I'm hoping Kaysar nominates her.

Don't get me wrong...I really really like Paddywhack. But...I love the S6 a little bit more, and her coming in 2nd in the HoH competition ought to put her on S6's radar. Forget about Will, put up Booger and Paddywhack.

I don't think Nakomis is half the threat that Jase and Diane are, but I agree that she'll be targeted the first of the three simply because she's going to do well in the same types of HOH competitions that Kaysar and Janelle do well in.

I think breaking up Will and Boogie is the safest thing to do this week, but I don't know that I have enough faith in any of the S6 to do anything safe and logical... they'll probably want to gun for Nakomis or George or Danielle or something.

GAH! They are going to put up Diane and Nakomis? Whu? They talked this through for about 45 seconds. Are you kidding me? Keeping both Will and Booger? I can't co-sign this one....

I thought they were leaning towards Nak and Boogie...to split the house and watch Jase sweat.

They were, like five minutes ago....I think that was a much smarter plan...this one, not so much...and they need to not go act on things right now - sit and think things through first.

Oh, jeez...well, noms aren't until Saturday...so, there's time for them to revert back to Boogie...as long as Kaysar doesn't deal with Will like Janey is urging him to do!

I think Marcy needs to get in there because at least he thinks Booger and Will need to go....they need another voice in there....James, Marcy...I don't care - gotta stop this plan and soon.....

See, in some ways, I think the S5 alliance is more in it for the long haul than the Chilltowners. I do think, though, that either way they're in trouble.

Kaysar puts up Nak and Diane (or Jase): Will and Mike slip through the cracks, as the other two sides battle in a war of attrition. Good idea if the focus is on dominating HOH.

Kaysar puts up Will and Boogie: Ignoring a larger, scarier potential alliance of Jase, Di, and Nakomis (remember, any one of those three has won more challenges than Will and Boogie combined.) I think that Will and Boogie are more dangerous in the short terms in terms of instigating things and slipping through the cracks, but in the long term, Jase, Di and Nak are the bigger threats. Good idea if the focus is to eliminate troublemakers.

Kaysar puts up one of each group: both groups unite against Kaysar's clique. Good idea if they want to find out where alliances stand.

Kaysar puts up Chicken George: wasting an HOH so that he doesn't have to piss anyone off. Good idea if he wants to avoid conflict.

Kaysar puts up Danielle: that's really stupid. Good idea if he wants Marcellas to shut up.

I think that putting up two of Nakomis, Diane, and Jase isn't a bad idea... they're a strong trio. Problem is, they're focusing on the wrong member of that trio. Just because there's the most overlap between the challenges that Nakomis is good with the types Kaysar and Janelle are good at, they assume she's the biggest threat. See, though, Jase is a much more dangerous player, and Diane appears to be the center of the power on that side. Jase and Di might just let Nakomis take the hit, and rally to get George, Mike, and Will to help them take out the S6ers. I would rather they went after Booger or Will, but I'm biased because I really like Nakomis, mostly like Diane, and am surprised that I now like Jase.

During the HoH competition I got the feeling that everyone who got the second to the last question wrong, leaving Kaysar and Nakomis, weren't even trying... It seemed to me as soon as a question came up that they could give a wrong answer to without looking like a complete idiot (other than George) they jumped on it.

On another note, does Marcelles annoy the crap out of anyone else? He just whines and moans all the time.

Personally, I think Kaysar's best move would be to put up Howie and Will, with the intention of Howie leaving. Why?

He can tell Howie he's a pawn, and he thought that Howie would enjoy winning the showdown.

It would take the heat off of the alliance, with no real consequences.

Howie is dead weight anyway. There is no way they are all going to final four, the target's on them, Howie's a ticking time bomb that will hurt them in the long run, and he's annoying people so those people might be grateful enough not to gun for Kay anytime soon. Howie also wouldn't make jury, so now's the time to get rid of him for the good of the rest of S6 people.

I'm not even sure that Kaysar really likes Howie as a person anyway. Better now than later, when it could be a vote against you.

Of course, I'm biased too, since so far I'm rooting for Jase or Nak. But it still couldn't hurt K or Janie's game at all. Good for everybody I like. And that's what matters, damnit.

And yes, Marcy is fucking annoying. Funny DRs, but horrible real life person to hang out with I'm sure. Sure wouldn't want him looking at my shoe collection, I can tell you that. Bitch would have a heart attack.

I totally agree that Diane and Jase would let Nakomis take the hit. And Diane and Jase will fall right in with Will and Booger.
I liked the Booger/Nakomis idea. I would have then spoken with Nakomis, telling her that their real target was Booger - not that she is a pawn because she is a good player and they respect her potential to win so if she goes, she goes but that they would prefer Booger go. If Booger gets off the block, then put up Will, and that way one of those two will be gone. To me, at least one of them is priority number one.

Upon thinking about why they all jumped on this Diane/Nakomis nom in less than a minute, I think I get it now: Howie will jump on any plan that has Nakomis going up, Kaysar is afraid to go after the big dog, and Janey wants to get a better handle on where Jase really stands in the MMS alliance. The thing is, everyone already knows about the MMS alliance. Who will they be "exposing" it to? I think S6 is highly underestimating the ability of Will/Booger to create chaos and turn things around on them. It also will not benefit S6 to look like they are in with W&B (I refuse to call them 'Chill Town.') If they succeed in making everyone think they are with them, S6 will be hated even more. If no one believes them, it gives W&B more power because they will let everyone know that S6 is trying to pull something over on the rest of the house.

ETA - I also don't understand why Janey doesn't believe Jase is with W&B because she knows that Jase was going to vote to keep Aliscum. What more proof does she want? He has his hand in every alliance - the WB, MMS, and S6....smart move by him, but dangerous to S6.

You know you spend waaaayyyy too much time obsessing about Big Brother when you read:




and wonder why the people in the diary room would tell the hamsters that?.......

When that happens it's almost always because they're practicing for the live show itself (not necessarily the competitions, although they sometimes shut down the feeds for that, too).

Ok for some insane reason I had a dream last night that Kaysar put up Diane and Nak and that James won Veto and took off Nak. Then Will got put up in Nak's place because he wants to be nominated anyway.

I can't believe I'm dreaming about this show.

You mean that hasn't happened to you yet before now? You gotta immerse yourself more!

Non sequitur: What could be a more torturous food penalty than PB&J for our often bored and boring hamsters? Plain, unflavoured tofu! (There's well prepared I-cant-believe-this-is-tofu, and there's I-dont-know-how-the-hell-I'm-supposed-to-cook-this-tofu. Guess which one I had at a friend's place this week and instantly thought "hmm... BB food penalty!")

Does anyone think Dr. Pastey and James are together? James said not to go after him tonight while talking with S6, but I am really going back to something that happened maybe two days ago that someone recapped but I didn't see myself. At least I don't think I saw it....I have been watching feeds *way* too much, like crack-addiction watching, but that's another story. It was something where they made hand jestures to each other and kind of asked if they were still good with each other. I don't know, just throwing it out there. I do think there may be an alliance going on that even the "feeders" don't know about although I have to wonder if Skippy et al could manage that one considering all of the technical glitches we see even in Season 7.

It'd be great if someone who saw that interaction between James and Will to chime in.

OK- I am wondering.....

Was the competition skewed and Nak was supposed to win it? Was Nak's name already on Julie's script? Is that why Julie messed up?

Kaysar, to me, actually looked a little disappointed and confused when he won.

Too much paranoid theory? Please tell me what you think.

Oh, and IMO, I think there are probably several secret alliances. These hamsters are feed-aware, and they will know how to really hide it. For example- Will and Janey both appreciate the many levels of the game and the "playing a character" portion. For them to team up, they would need very little overt communicaiton in the very beginning.

James could do the same type of secret alliance with just about anyone. Jase is not really playing the whole game. He's much more interested in presenting himself as a better person. I don't hink it will really matter to him if he wns, only if he can change his public image. I actually like that about him this time.

Diane might say you are parannoying (isn't she the one who said that?) But I don't think anything was supposed to happen in the way you mean because I don't think Nak knew Aliscum any better than the others and with a comp like that I don't think there is any way to know who is going to win it. For sure I think questions can be stacked a certain way, but in this case I don't think so....I think JC just messed up (perhaps to dispell rumors that she is a robot.) ;)

I just had a thought (I'm just as shocked as you are):

What if Big Brother made up secret alliances? (kind of like last years couples) If they get to the final two with their secret partner, the winner gets 1million and the runner-up gets 500k...

Possible "Secret Pairs":

Janelle ~ Jase
James ~ Danielle
Howie ~ Will
Kaysar ~ Booger
George ~ Erica
Alison ~ Nakomis
Marcellas ~ Diane


Hmmmm...

JC is just a doofus, as she has proven time and time again on this show. She has no ability to think on the fly, so pretty much anything non-scripted (Q&A sessions, Comp results, etc) is a huge challenge for her. The Q&A sessions are in particular very uncomfortable to watch, as she flounders for a reply or follow up question.

I would looooovvvvee for them to pull a fast one on us. That would be so cool if they were playing for the live feeders. By the way, I'm heterosexual and enjoy the feeds.. does that make me a breeder feeder? But I digress.. It's great knowing who's on the mac before the tv audience, but it might be exciting to be surprised.

Just saying.

I feel like I've missed something. Could someone explain the MMS alliance to me?

There's chatter around the 'net that Diane's ex-roommate (Toni Ferrari, Temptation Island) said there are two-person teams - with a pair receiving a bonus if they make it to the final two. That twist sounds too much like last season for me to believe. Also, Toni claims there were discussions between the All-Stars forming secret alliances before they entered the house. Someone just asked about it on HouseCalls, and Alison said she had no idea who Toni "Whatever" is - saying that CBS forbid communications between the HG once the All-Star season was announced.

Not that Alison lies or anything...or that Toni is a fame-whore or anything.

I really think Nakomis threw it. That was not a hard question. And almost immediately after, she and Diane were assuring each other that they were safe. And I think they really believe that. I think they figured they'd have a couple weeks while S6 and Will/Boogie took each other out. They're gonna be stunned if Kaysar sticks with his current plan.

Kaysar admitted that he really didn't want it. He was really hoping James or Howie would get it. He's done a great job laying low, and he knows that's going to be really hard now. For all his intense strategy about why Diane and Nakomis are genius noms, I really do think that in the long run, the reason for them is just because he wants to stay at the bottom of the list of targetted S6'ers. Will and Boogie should still be mainly after Janelle next week. And even Jase can't really be pissed at him because Jase won't even admit that he's close with Diane or Nakomis. These nominations are all about trying to not stir up the pot too much.

MMS = Mr. & Mrs. Smith alliance - supposedly Jase, Diane, Nakomis, maybe Aliscum too. Was supposedly confirmed by Diane wearing a black and white dress to move-in day at the BB house (which she did.) Also Jase apparently said to someone during the lava HOH comp that Diane looked like Angelina Jolie, an unintentional comment that some of the HGs picked up on. Supposedly the whole house more or less knows about it now, some before getting in due to former Diane roomate Toni F. calling Janelle, Marcellus, maybe others and spilling the beans.

ETA: Jase may have revealed his need for glasses if he thinks Diane looks like AJ...just sayin'.....

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LOL!! Sorry for the misleading abbreviation. DRs as in doctors. Either way, it's a mighty gross concept, no?

I don't like the Nak/Diane plan, either. I wanted Boogtard gone. And Nak is NOT the leader of the MMS alliance, they all know that, yet they act like she's this Big Brain like James.

Not sure if this is the place for this but the Revenge of the HG's blog is up. Winston (?), Jack (BB5) and Karen(BB5) are back from last year. I can't remember if Justin (BB4) was blogging last year, but he is now. They've also got Jun (BB4), Amy (BB3), and *gag* Ivette (BB6).

Also, the HOH blogs and pictures are up. Jase seems like he really misses his girlfriend. He seems really sad. Maybe that's why he's so reserved now; he's not laying low, he's having a hard time being away from his girlfriend and almost step-daughter. Though I will admit he's playing a good game either way.

Fascinating idea. I love it. I would love that to be true. I would hope it's Kaysar ~ Erika, though, not Kaysar ~ (GAG) Boogtard. Put Boogtard with George. Hee!


I agree. Kaysar was doing so well getting people to think he wasn't the leader of the S6, now he's right back in the thick of it. I'm sure it wasn't his strategy or plan. Then howie had to leap on him and practically flatten he and Janie after the HOH comp, thereby illustrating to the house that the three are tightly allied.

I suppose Nak's possible nomination may be some combo of Howie's weird dislike for her and the fact that she came in second in the HoH (it would have been fun if this was another duo HoH and it was Kaysar and Nak together). But it sounds like Kaysar and Janelle would prefer Diane to be the one to go.

In a lot of ways, going after Diane and Nak makes sense. They were pretty much always on the keep Allison train and didn't get the memo to jump off in time. It doesn't seem like Diane has talked to anyone from season six very much.

While they aren't trustworthy at all, at least Will and Mike have tried to make it look like they work with the season sixers for awhile. I don't think Diane has made any inroads with them and it seems Nak has only bonded a little with Janelle.

From Kaysar's point of view, I really think that nomination makes sense.

Yes, I have to say, much as I like Nak, she doesn't play the social game very well. I haven't really seen her hanging much with the S6ers, except Janie and smoking. But, she knows Howie detests her, so that may be part of it. I wouldn't feel welcome in the HOH room, either, if I knew Howie might be in there. Still, it behooves every hamster to at least talk to the HOH before noms -- ask if they're being considered, if there's anything they can do to get long another week, some deal they can strike. I bet a lot of HOHs would fold under a direct approach even if they supposedly had their plan set. They debated offering Nak a deal last night, so it's not out of the realm of possiblity. I'm always amazed when the other hamsters don't talk to the HOH.

Heck, it wouldn't hurt for Nak to go to Howie and ask why he has it out for her, start softening him up. I haven't seen her consider anything like that. But it might alleviate his hate toward her if she put it right out there.

Can anyone tell me why Kaysar thinks nominating Nak and Diane will start chaos in the house? Huh? WB are going to be as arrogant as ever and no one else is really going to care, other than Jase who will probably lobby to keep Diane, which *should* tell S6 that she is the one who has to go and not Nakomis.

ETA - I like Kaysar but I think he is getting a little full of himself, keeps quoting his war strategy books, then criticizes James for wanting to get rid of Booger saying his strategy sucks....oh well, we shall see, but I think WB are going to be laughing their asses off that K isn't putting them up.

I really don't get it, either....I still think Booger and Nak was the way to go...how TF one can ever expect that S6 won't go up if Will or Booger wins next HOH is BEYOND me, regardless of any 'deal'.

Just a few thoughts:

1. Is there anyone in this house who doesnt think Kaysar is part of the S6 group, and as such, he's one of the 4 targets they need to take out (if they're part of the anti S6 sentiment).

2. Not filling your alliance in on all the moves you're about to make is totally stupid, this is how they lost James last year, by not being up front with him and wondering why he was always so paranoid and suspicious. Well, duh, they forced him to think like that. And to compound this, Janey opened her mouth about the noms to Marcellus, which could totally come back and bite them in the ass.

3. As people I think S6 are great, I do think that as *gamers* they have a lot to learn and alot to lose by this constant waffling about their decisions.

You're right. Especially if Marc assumes that James knows and decides to talk about it. But even if Marc knows that James doesn't and spills it anyway (and James goes back to Janelle & Kay about it, proving Marc's loose lips), they are giving James an out to turn on them at his first opportunity. I'm starting to hope James gets HOH next week if only to watch the other three suck up and try to mitigate their duplicity. I'd make them sweat a little about noms.

So, on a completely different note...the big twist to the no PB & J is OATMEAL???

Whoopeddy-DO!

Ahh, but don't forget Kimmie, they are serving it in a big pot labeled "SLOP" so that makes it a big deal. Creativity reigns supreme at CBS.

I'm starting to gross myself out, thinking someone not on food restriction might spike the pot with something not-so-nice.