Zach Options

[SBTZMom]

A Zack/Dick F2 would sure be one of the more interesting scenarios.

I just can not get behind Jameka at all...she annoys me in so many ways, but I could look beyond that. I just can not look beyond giving up the 5 HOHs, and basically I feel she just has had no game whatsoever in the house.

Personally, for me, this has been an interesting season to watch (even though I have had to fast forward through Dick at numerous times, and Eric almost drove me insane from his nonstop chattering) Mostly I have enjoyed this board, and love reading everyone's analysis and opinions.

[BBFanJamie]

Well, I have to say that giving up 5 HOHs has kept her in the game longer. I think they would have gotten rid of her if she could have competed.

[Mekias]

Zach played it safe, the same way he has all summer. No big surprise. There was no real reason to get rid of Danielle as he would probably need to win HoH in the final 3 in order to make the final 2 in any circumstance.

[Magpie]

With Dani being the biggest challenge threat in the house, it seems like he'd have a better chance at winning the last couple of HoHs if he got rid of her. I know, he didn't have time to think it out, but damn, you'd think the hammies would've thought about various scenarios in advance. I mean, it's not like they've been doing much of anything else.

[CripesAlmighty]

I've long predicted that a F2 of Jamesus and ZachRabbit was a big possibility. Here's how it can happen:

1) Zach and Jamesus realize that they only stand a chance if they stand together.

2) Zach or Jam wins HoH

3) HoH puts up ED and Damnelle

4) Zach or Jam wins PoV

5) non-HoH kicks out ED or Damnelle (likely ED because Damnelle will try to sell him out or ED will make himself so unpleasant that they'll want to get rid of him.)

6) Second verse, same as the first.

It will depend on an incredible amount of luck on Zach and Jam's part, but it's extremely possible.

[tremolo]

I'm rather mixed on this. Yeah, I was waiting for the spectacular move, but then I thought about it. There's no way in Hell that he wants to:

1) Sit through a week of ED raging at him for getting rid of Damnelle.

Jen sat through Dick's crap for months. Zach couldn't survive one week?

My sister and I thought all hope was lost. We thought there's no way he would use it until we remembered that he couldn't be nominated so Daniele would have to be put up. (Which would have completed another task for Eric, though I'm not sure it would have counted.) If Zach did that I assume it would mean he'd vote out Daniele and she would leave. Next is probably an endurance comp, which Dick would probably lose. No matter who won they would put up Dick and he would be gone. It would be a Jameka, Eric and Zach final three and I think Zach would make it to final two if either he or Eric were to win since I don't think either one believes they can win over Jameka.

As it stands, I don't think he will make to final two unless Jameka wins.

My sister pointed out that evil always wins BB and after I typed this comment elsewhere I did eventually recall that "Evil will always triumph because Good is dumb." Not that Zach is really "good" per se but compared to the Donatos ... So, thank you Zach for keeping this rigged fiasco going and potentailly handing the game to D&D.

A Donato would be his only chance to win...at least that's what I think he would think.

I have no doubt that's what he thinks and I'm sure he's wrong. I just think that if he had kept Eric and gotten rid of the Ds he woul dhave a better chance. D&D are taking each other. They are both sure that Daniele can win over Dick. I think they're wrong.

This post has been edited by tremolo: Sep 6 2007, 08:54 PM

[SBTZMom]

I think Zach would not want to be sitting next to Jameka if he could avoid it.
He knows that it's all her "crew" on the jury, with the exception of Jen (if she is really there)

A Donato would be his only chance to win...at least that's what I think he would think.

[sbell111]

I think Zach would not want to be sitting next to Jameka if he could avoid it.
He knows that it's all her "crew" on the jury, with the exception of Jen (if she is really there)

A Donato would be his only chance to win...at least that's what I think he would think.

I agree that it's smart to take a Donato to F2. I disagree that it's smart to take two of them to F4.

He Zached his chances up good.

[eshanna]

I'm just concerned that Zach actually thinks he CAN convince Whinele to take him to the finals. I hope to OGG I'm wrong, but Zach Rabbit seems so overtly loyal to her.........I dunno.

I hope he has been holding back like some suggested, and he'll go all out now. It just seems out of his character to make bold moves, and that's what he needs to do!

"Evil will always triumph because Good is dumb." - is that from Spaceballs, Tremelo? I love that line! It's very fitting to this situation!

This post has been edited by eshanna: Sep 6 2007, 09:10 PM

[MockTurtle]

I hated Zatch, then I started to like him. Then I thought, tonight, yes tonight he was going to pull it out. His masterful gameplay, the whirring wheels that had been humming behind the last few weeks were all goigg to come into play and he was going to actually DO SOMETHING to make the game interesting, use his POV to mix up this game and split that final alliance of two. Honestly, I am so...so...very...disappointed that he is no more or less than I thought he might be. How Saaaaad.

[Anders44Leafs]

Zach not using veto makes perfect sense to me. There is no way he would endanger Dani, who was the only one who hung out with him in the HOH room.

[pvrunner]

Zach's main strategy from day one has been loyalty. I wouldn't have expected any less from him at this point in the game. The only people that took it upon themselves to have conversations with him before they needed something is where he's going put his loyalties. He held true to that. I don't know if he said it to Eric, but he said it about Eric to Dick more than once that he had no reason to believe anything Eric was selling him after 40 days not talking to him.

Zach probably sees that as something he can bring up at the end if he's sitting in the final two. And it's not a bad thing to have in this game considering the other players talk about it a lot, but don't practice it much.

Frankly, his biggest loyalty to this day is to Nick. I believe that's why, when Nick was evicted, he struck up a friendship with Dani. Of course, she was only receptive because Nick was gone, but it's worked to both of their favor.

[Iron Fortified E...]

Who was he going to save? Eric, who treats him like something he scraped off the bottom of his size 6 and a half pumps, and Jammmm, who has made no secret of her utter distaste for anything Zach. Both would have immediately targeted him for the next eviction and so would Dick, seeing as Zach would have put him in the position of putting his daughter on the block. I don't think Zach had an option. As things stand now, Jammmm will likely be the next target and that gives Zach 2 more tries at HOH instead of just 1.

This post has been edited by Iron Fortified Elli: Sep 6 2007, 10:31 PM

[uaintjak]

Who the hell cares how they treat him? No one has been nice to him since day one. Dani's only been nice to him since he's gotten some power in the house, and that's the ONLY reason she's been nice to him. He's too socially inept to realize that however.

He should have long ago realized that no one in this game was his friend, and dumped Dani "Bitchface" Donato the first chance he had. He'd stand a much better chance of going to final 2. And since Eric betrayed everyone and Dick is a dick, he'd actually been a lot better off in the final two against either of them than against Dani, who despite being a starved harpy bitch whore from hell, has actually stepped up and won shit.

[Iron Fortified E...]

I wasn't suggesting he should base his decision on how they treated him. My point is that he would have been the target of everyone remaining in the house. He will be in that position after the next eviction anyway, but even if he hadn't won this HOH, he gave himself an additional week in the house.