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cubkip   

ugg, this season is about over for me. Once Rachel leaves, the others that aren't the brigade will be picked off one by one. It will just be boring.

 

As for the hgs thinking Pandoras box could be something good, remember Gnat getting engaged after opening the box? They have watched that season and consider that something good. BB messed up their knowledge (if they had any) about Pandoras box.

 

Now, back to listening to the bashing of the only couple that could break up the brigade......

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Sardonic   

On the one hand, it absolutely does look like the Brigade will pick off the others one by one. However, the caveat to that is that we have seen no evidence that any of them are actual challenge threats aside from Matt. I don't know if Lane and Enzo are genuinely throwing every challenge or if they're realistically not much more of a threat than Kathy... but given the challlenge abilities of the remaining half of Brenchel plus Britney, it might not be as easy as they think (especially if Ragan has more incentive to keep himself in the game). If the non-brigade members wise up, maybe they can get some semblance of counteralliance going, but I suspect that Brit and Ragan won't figure that out until it's too late

 

In the short term, though, I think the only one that is any danger is Matt, in that he might go up should a non-brigade member win HOH. I think, though, that the remaining half of Brenchel would probably put Ragan up against Matt (in which case Ragan goes home, and Brit or Kathy would be the veto replacement), a Brigade HOH would put up Kathy and the remaining Brenchel (as would Brit or Ragan, I suspect) and a Kathy HOH win would tear a hole into the fabric of time and therefore her nominations would not matter.

 

I suspect the final two will probably be Enzo and Lane. Maybe Hayden if he wins some challenges at the end. I think eventually the brigade will suffer a casualty, and I suspect it will probably be Matt.

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I have to agree that The Brigade may not skate to the end as easily as they think they will. Britney has become very good at winning POVs (the most crucial win) and I think Ragan easily could if he felt he had to. He conceded the two HOHs where he could have won. Brendon might be a contender but so far he's proven not to be able to win anything after a couple of early POVs. For those of them that are fans of the show, they shouldn't forget the year Dan, Memphis, Renny and Keesha thought keeping Jerry was the easiest way to final 4 and he pulled out an HOH win in the critical hour.

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There's a another tack to consider as well...two Brigade members have side alliances - Matt and Ragan, Lane and Britney. Will be interesting to see how the Brigade members campaign towards/against keeping their side deals without having to turn on one another, which seems inevitable at this point. The Brigade think they can cruise to F4 then deal without backstabbing one another, but I foresee splinter-ation coming sooner rather than later.

 

ETA: Not to mention, Lane and Hayden, as well as Matt and Enzo, have already started discussing F2 deals with each other, ruling the other two out as contenders based on prospective jury voting. "Layden" have determined that they would not want to be F3 with 'sympathetic' Matt, nor 'America's Favorite' Enzo, and "Menzo" have decided similarly against Lane and Hayden. That's gonna factor in here soon.

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spartini   

I'm actually moderately excited for the show tonight. I'm wanting to see Ragan's Heeeey comments, Brenda sulking and what this power Matt received is.

 

Heck, I'm just excited for all the shows this week. Only one little bummer about the whole thing is JC not being able to tell Rachel about the Brigade. I'd love to see the look on her face when she finds out she insisted Brenda align himself with 2 people who are going to hopefully do everything in their power to send him following her.

 

But if the brigade decides to get cocky and doesn't go after Brenda next week, it's going to be a rough few weeks.

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I wonder if the saboteur this time will be tasked with anything that really truly sabotages other peoples games? Planting cricket machines in the house and putting tape on pictures is the most benign form of sabotage I can imagine. They already know the messages are BS so what now saboteur? Anything clever? This twist is the pits.

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ff174   

I still have hope that the season will become interesting; strategically, that is. Because, by the looks of things, this group is lame when it comes to fights.

 

Unfortunately, there will probably be no drama, strategic or otherwise for a few weeks. I can pretty much predict the next few weeks. If Brendon wins HOH, Matt and Ragan go up, Ragan goes home, If Kathy wins, the Brigade will convince her to put Brendon up agains a pawn (probably Ragain), Brendon goes home. If anyone else wins, Brendon goes up agains Kathy as a pawn, Brendon goes home. Once Brendon is out, The Brigade will put someone up as a pawn against Kathy.

 

Maybe, when we are down to the Brigade, Britney and Ragan, we will start seeing some interesting manuevering. Until then, I really can't see the potential for any game changing weeks.

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cubkip   

I think it would be great if the mole would get told to riffle through Matt's luggage.

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Kareny   

I love that Britney actually used the phrase "Stuck with Brendon" (and Rachel) in the segment on the "Trapped" game tonight. Inadvertent Hamster Time shout-out from the Brit!

 

In other episode news, I wonder who Matt will target with the Diamond POV next week. (He only has this week and next, right?)

 

Let's assume he convinces the Brigade to throw HOH to Brendon, so Brendon presumably is safe. Depending on how the regular POV affects the game, Matt is most likely to target either Britney or Kathy. Yes, the Brigade wants Ragan out, but that's dirty work Matt can't do, as Ragan is one of his guaranteed jury votes. So Ragan most likely is coasting through the next two evictions and straight to his $20K.

 

I can't envision a scenario where Matt uses the Diamond POV unless the Brigade is either exposed and targeted, or "accidentally" targeted through the nomination of two members. In a last ditch effort, he might as well spend it on Ragan if it doesn't hurt the Brigade. Otherwise, right now, there's very little need - it's just a safety net for Matt, and really for Ragan, too. If he only has two weeks to use it, it's too soon to target the Brigade by turning on them.

 

So the way I figure it, this whole twist benefits Ragan more than anyone else, since he was going to be the Brigade's expected casualty next week. Fingers crossed!

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First let my say I fully understand why fans and the house guests don't like Brendon and Rachel.

I know I've talked about it before but the Brendon and Rachel mocking by Britney and Ragan has got to stop.

It's making the feeds unwatchable.

 

I love how Britney and Ragan talk about how they dislike Brendon's and Rachel's game play

and then the stuff they say behind their backs is 100% worse.

If you are watching the feeds right now you might understand my rage.

They are having a mock talk show with Brendon and Rachel bashing.

There just comes a point in time where the mocking and bashing serve no point.

How many times do I have to hear Britney say Brendon just walking by annoys me.

 

People will disagree but I think what Britney and Ragan are doing make them look like real nasty people to the viewers.

Ragan seemed to be the voice of reason in the house the first few weeks but now he's just gone nasty.

I don't know why exactly it annoys me but it just does. I'm sure others will say it's just part of the game.

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ff174   

I brought this over from the Britney thread.

 

It's one thing for us to snark on a message board, but Britney is inside that house, pretending to be friends with Rachel and Kathy one minute, and then talking against them for hours on end behind their backs. What has Kathy ever done to her besides make her bed for her? Oh that's right, Kathy is old and Britney didn't want to be around old people.

 

I disagree with this. And believe me, if there is one thing I can not tolerate is mean spirited bashing of other HGs. I think back to Maggie and her Nerd Herd. I remember the terrible trio of Jee, Robert and whoever Allison's ex-boyfriend was. I remember the awful things that Jase said about Janelle. Last season, RatTurdRonnie, Lydia and Natalie said absolutely disgusting things about Michelle. I remember that piece of shit asshole DICK! and the threats he used to toss around the house.

 

I just watched Britney, Hayden, Matt and Ragan do a little pretend skit, where they were laying down the rules for bashing other hammies. Of course, the subject of their little play was Rachel, and her many bashable qualities, They talked about her extensions, her labia, her vagina, her laugh and all those other things that we here at HT love to comment on. The difference between this group and the groups that I mentioned in the previous paragraph is that the current season 12 hammies are bored to tears, and are trying to pass the time away by making fun of Rachel ... much like we do here at HT; much like I think that many of us would do if we were stuck in that fetid shithole for 12 weeks. There didn't seem to be the hatred, intent to harm and animous that we have witnessed during so many seasons. Thethings that they were saying was a reaction to the over-the-top, annoying behaviour of Rachel and Brendon

 

That is the difference, for me ... intent. I think that Britney, Ragan, et al are duplicating what we do here at HT ... mocking other HGs. Without getting too "boards on boards," I would suggest that many of us, if we were stuck in the house, removed from our friends and family without absolutely nothing to do, would be right there, participating in the trashing of Rachel and Brendon ...

 

... out of shear boredom.

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mewmom30   

While I don't have the feeds, all of the Rachel-Brendon bashing certainly seems pretty mean spirited to me. Boredom setting in? Perhaps...... but what ever happened to beer pong or that tossing game they used to play on the cocktail table in the living room? I'm with you, IceManNYR - the mocking seems to be going a bit too far. Personally, I can't wait until Britney and Ragan are on the block - preferably together - and in a double eviction week!

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chrysana   

I think boredom plays a huge part in what is going on...and always has in the BB house.

 

I think it's also a reaction to finally having Brendon and Rachel on the block and knowing one of them is going home. Rachel has not been a nice roomie in the house and she has picked many fights along the way. No problem. But, now, the rest of the house knows she's on her way out, factor in the boredom, plus delight in knowing she won't be a threat in the game anymore and the claws come out.

 

I agree with ff174 that the intent decides the tolerability of these conversations. I'm not sure of their intent. I think the mocking is more a response to Rachel's over-the-top behaviour. I'm pretty sure I'd be snarking on her if I lived in the BB house as well. Many comments have been made here about Rachel's nipple flashing, her inability to wear pants when she's mounting Brendon and showing her parts, her voice, her showboating for the cameras, her hair and her lifestyle in VEGAS. I guess I'm just saying I understand where they are coming from.

 

Perhaps the issue is it's time for Regan and Brit to stop making these comments? You know, too much of a good thing? Rachel's on the way out the door so why kick a dead horse?

 

As for Kathy, I think I'd be annoyed with her too if I ever had to compete with her...which Regan and Brit did. I'm not thinking they would have won that challenge...but, OMG she was beyond slow. Maybe that's where some of the snark about her comes from - frustration?

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angelmi   

I do not go to Jokers but I have heard they are pretty bad over there, and listening to Britney's boyfriend on the link that was posted; he has been to Jokers so I am assuming that is where Britney and Probably Ragan gets their information about the BLOGGERS! I woke up to the pretend talk show What Would Julie Do? And I thought it was so funny. Rachel was drunk and telling them horrible stories about getting drunk waking up with money in hand and throw up all over herself. She was exposing herself in a bikini that 2 times too small in the hot tub. Lane and Hayden were talking about how great it would be to go to Texas when they get out and she could not understand why they would not want to go to Vegas, if she is a example of the people in Vegas, I would never go either.

 

Her job sounds like she is an escort. Rachel was ok the first week, on the block, a have not and she handled it well, then she got HOH and became 'the best BBer ever' and this is HER House. She thinks she should play HOH every week. She also put Monet out with the excuse She had $10,000 but it was jealously. She put out Kristen because she was part of the hayden/Kristen Team well what is Rachel/Brendon, just because they are out in the open does not mean they are safe. If I had to share a room or house with a couple making out all the time and professing their love for each other after knowing each other one week, I would be sick too!! Brendon is weird to Britney about her boyfriend talk and I have heard him bash her non stop too. He was so upset that Britney won more POV's them.

 

IF this was Rachel and Brendon's house they would be upstairs the whole time, putting each one that did not kiss their ass out each week. She TOLD Britney not to use the veto last week on Kristen so WHY expect Britney now to use it on her. The goal of the game is to win the money, you get rid of the others. WHY would Matt not want to get rid of the powerful team?

 

I love seeing her get what she gave out.

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The level of vitriol in the bashing is what causes it to be unbearable to me. I don't really get that from Britney and Ragan. When I compare it to other seasons, I think about how I couldn't bear listening to Michelle, April and Ollie about Dan, horrible Jerry about Keesha (who was more than kind to him) or Natalie and Lydia about Jeff and Jordan. In all of those examples we saw bitter ugly people who were probably much like that outside of the house. They were trashing on people who had shown them kindness when the chips were down.

 

Britney and Ragan both seem to be basically decent people who are bored and are sick to death of the ridiculousness that is Brenchel. If Rachel and Brendon hand't both been equally nasty behind peoples backs and displayed such hypocrisy I might agree that they were being unfairly trashed. Again, it is their outlandish hypocrisy that keeps me from feeling any pity for those that make fun of them and while some of the Brenchell bashing might be petty or repetitive I don't ge the feeling that it is out-and-out malicious. I even imagine both Brit and Ragan will feel regret about how much of it they did once they read about it on the message boards. I recall not long after Monet left that Britney was worried that she'd been to catty and was coming off that way. In the early days of the game I actually was on Rachel's side and disgusted by the trashing of her that Britney was doing. What a difference a couple of weeks makes.

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